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My tortured journey with former Guantanamo detainee David Hicks : Comments

By Jason Leopold, published 4/3/2011

A great injustice was done to David Hicks - weekend reading.

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Dear Loudmouth,

I agree. Those who have committed crimes even if they think they are justified in doing so should pay for it.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 6 March 2011 3:16:03 PM
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Davidf,

If every criminal who didn't think he was doing anything particularly wrong, or thought that for some reason he HAD to do what he did, didn't have to do any time, then the jails would be pretty empty.

The question is: did he intentionally break any laws, did he intend to commit, and then committed, acts which would be regarded as crimes ? Yes/no. End of story
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 6 March 2011 4:22:17 PM
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Pelican wrote:

"There is little doubt that Hicks is a nong but it is more important that our justice system does not also act as a nong."

Agreed.

The trouble with this piece is that Jason Leopold tries to turn Hicks into some kind of hero or martyr. He isn't. He took up arms in support of a vicious ideology. It's an ideology that would abolish freedom of expression and kill journalists like Jason Leopold.

But all that notwithstanding, you are right. Our justice system should not "act as a nong."
Posted by KinkyChristian, Sunday, 6 March 2011 5:37:26 PM
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Leo Lane:

What evidence do you have to present? It's all very well to spout off against various institutions and organisations but where is your evidence to contradict Amnesty International, The Red Cross, The American Military Lawyer who represented Hicks, various Guantanamo Guards who witnessed the torture of Hicks, British prisoners who were in Guantanamo with Hicks and gave their accounts to British newspapers on being released, and so on? As I told you in my previous post - all you have to do is a bit of research - google - the subject and who knows you may actually learn something - instead of simply saying what people who aren't thinking are thinking.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 6 March 2011 6:16:58 PM
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Lexi, you are the one making the ridiculous assertions, not me. The onus is on you. I am simply refuting nonsense.

Do not resort to the schoolchild retort of "prove it".

I said in my post that Amnesty discredit themselves by using the ridiculous article of Leopold as part of their assertions.

We know you can read, so give a proper answer, or give it up.
Posted by Leo Lane, Sunday, 6 March 2011 6:56:11 PM
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The very basis upon which Hicks was charged and convicted was all based on a lie.We all know the invasion of Iraq was based on a lie.There were no weapons of mass destruction.

The Taliban had stopped the production of heroine prior 911 and now US troops patrol it's production? Are they trying to tell us that the most powerful military machine on the planet cannot destroy a few poppy plants?Afghanistan now produces 90% of the world's heroine valued at $92 billion pa.

We now learn that Afghanistan has $ trillions in lithium needed for the battery industry.Currently they are building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to make it economically viable.Now Iran is being demonised for it's oil.

911 was a total lie.Thousands of professionals in the West are now saying so.http://ae911truth.org/ http://patriotsquestion911.com/
The forensic,scientific,irrefutable evidence is there.This is not like climate science.It is either right or wrong.

Fascism is afoot and we'd better wake up before it is too late!
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 6 March 2011 8:53:36 PM
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