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By David Leyonhjelm, published 14/2/2011When speeding laws say one thing and a large majority of people demonstrate they have a different view, it’s time to recalibrate.
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Posted by King Hazza, Monday, 14 February 2011 8:20:02 PM
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We have laws to protect the innocent,
579, Where can I get a visa to have a look at your planet. Sounds great ! Posted by individual, Monday, 14 February 2011 8:39:03 PM
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Not always A597.
When I pass a fixed speed camera for an 80k zone, I continue past at 80ks not braking with people up my backside. The problem with some of these cameras is that some people, including myself, are unsure as to how far these speed cameras are able to take photos once you pass them. For instance around the bend from one fixed speed camera, the 100k sign appears up a hill, and in turn, most people commence accellerating up the hill, only to discover that the speed camera has done them for 90ks in an 80k zone. This has happened to me twice just as my car has approached the 100k zone sign. I paid the fines and lost the demerit points. How the other drivers fared I have no idea. By the way, only a couple of accidents [non fatalities]in ten years were recorded along this straight section of road/highway. Quite a few interstate motorists brake in both lanes approaching the speed camera almost causing accidents. Posted by weareunique, Monday, 14 February 2011 10:30:11 PM
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We have expressways a speed limit of 110 applies. You can drive from central vic; to spencer st melbourne without one red light.
Speeding up before a restriction sigh is speeding. You cant drive for someone behind you. The car in front is the one that pays the penalty. Speeding is the primary cause of accidents. Driving licenses are far to easy to come by, they are given to people that are not capable of mixing with other motorists. Mental, IQ, age, medical,and physical have all got to be part of the process. Years ago there was not the traffic on the road ,so there is no comparison. we had a road death toll of 1064 in the 70's last year it was in the low 200's. With count back for deliberate, and off road death, the toll was adjusted around 20 deaths. Still far too many we can do better. Some drivers are professional tail gaters, slow down and they will pass. Drive according to the rules of the road and you find it is cheaper. Offender pays. Posted by a597, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 7:13:42 AM
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Actually I have been checking the NSW RTA crash statistics and they indicate the majority of crashes occur in the 40-60kmh speed-range, and that the majority of crashes are collision-types that would apply to someone who fails to stop or give way to other traffic, or tries to tailgate or maneuver dangerously between traffic, or didn't look when they changed lanes.
Only a fraction of offenses (mainly in the country) occured in the 110 speed zone, and the only clearly speed-based crashes were failure to slow down for a bend in the road. So arguably, the tailgating maneuvering drivers that you dismissed as a lesser threat are in fact a vastly larger menace than speeders. Personally if there should be an offense that automatically results in the stripping of a license it should be the above. Hell, if that happened it might even be safe for the rest of us to drive faster, and we'd get to work in a realistic time frame. Read it yourselves. http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/downloads/crashstats2009.pdf Posted by King Hazza, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 9:43:44 AM
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You're wasting your time King, some fools always think big brother is right, & some of them are probably big brother in drag, trying to justify their stupidity.
We have an area behind the Gold Coast where tourists have a tendency to run off into the scenery. In one spot they have reduced the speed limit from 100 to 80 & now 70Km/H, & they still damage the scenery just as often. I'd like to see this speed limit raised to 150, to give the Darwin principle a chance to work. On that same stretch of road, 10 previously safe straight bits have become dangerous. They must have, as the dotted centre line, allowing overtaking, has been painted over with double lines. As our aging farmers trucks get older & slower, & our shoe box cars get quicker in acceleration, allowing safer overtaking, some twit at big brother, or the government accounts department, keep restricting legal overtaking, with these fool lines. Any wonder previously law abiding folk now often ignore them. I am concerned that there will be a backlash, as some of the southern tourists, who left their mind behind in a glass of water, before coming up here on holidays, die of old age, while stuck behind some of our farm trucks. Meanwhile a neighbour has grown some nice big pineapples, which I would love to apply, firmly, to the behinds of the damn fool bureaucrats who have nothing better to do than make driving around the country a pain. Surely we should be able to reciprocate. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 10:30:44 AM
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Why?
Furthermore, considering how large many of our cities are, it would not be unreasonable for motorists to expect to get from point A to B in less than an half and hour going along some major roads.
Or would you feel that driving at 60km an hour to cover the distance from Parramatta to Central is reasonable?
What would you say to high-speed expressways? Or perhaps this alternative- that we raise the standards of testing and give licenses only to the very competent drivers who are mentally capable of driving at the same speed limits imposed on those in Europe?
I'm just curious