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Wanted - new financial backers : Comments

By Graham Young, published 7/2/2011

This very Australian site which strives for tolerance and civility and better community understanding is under threat because of the bigotry of some entrenched interests and the weakness of some corporates both masquerading under the banner of values.

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I empathise Graham. Here is the reality: when one dances with the devil one will suffer singed eyebrows. While Australia takes great pride (before the fall?) in being an 'open' and 'fair' society that allows everyone a 'right' to have a say, the reality is that those of socialist and other bents harbour a very different belief The extremists amongst them - which includes a certain red-head - are happy to exploit what they see as a 'weakness' - which it is - in the feel-good wall of tolerance and openness. Which is why they will bide their time and strike when the opportunity presents - as, in your instance, did Bill Muhlenberg's article open up the opportunity. In parallel vein, increasing numbers are now rapidly realising that the 'open' and 'fairminded' idea of multiculturism is and has always been ideological and intellectual rubbish - something I have been saying for at least twenty years (and invariably receiving typical socialist abuse in response). Likewise, I say that the idea of allowing socialist thinking to be part of the 'debate' - to even allow it to exist, let alone promote itself within a society - will, as the Russian and German nations so unhappily found out, allow socialism the finger it needs to take control of the hand. Human nature being what it is, Australia's 'tolerance' and even embrace of socialism - or, in truth, of communism - has thus far caused at least the loss of both arms, with the rest of the body to soon follow - barring a miracle. As with my warnings on multiculturalism, feel free to hurl the epithets. I have survived many thrown by experts in the art. But don't say I didn't warn you, Australia.
Posted by PeterForde, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:46:33 AM
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PeterForde says:
"While Australia takes great pride (before the fall?) in being an 'open' and 'fair' society that allows everyone a 'right' to have a say, the reality is that those of socialist and other bents harbour a very different belief"
and then goes on to say:
"Likewise, I say that the idea of allowing socialist thinking to be part of the 'debate' - to even allow it to exist, let alone promote itself within a society - will, as the Russian and German nations so unhappily found out, allow socialism the finger it needs to take control of the hand."
So, only socialists are inclined to stifle debate... and for that their debate should be stifled.
Are you for real?
Posted by Grim, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:52:15 AM
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Graham, you say "there are rarely clear cut right and wrong answers when it comes to opinions." Only in a society that (a) is largely ignorant and (b)has lost its moral way - and the two are directly connected. When one has been born and - more importantly - bred (aka brainwashed) into a particular society, then one typicaly cannot see the wood for the trees, or more accurately in Australia's case, the brambles for the thorns. Paradigms rule and the paradigm ruling most of Australia's perspectives is its most certain Achilles Heel.
Posted by PeterForde, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 10:56:10 AM
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GP, you said, "Just because I'm not like some of the commenters on the post does not give them the right to refer to me, my partner, my life as a perversion." Properly informed people do not assume 'the right' to call you a perversion "just because" you are different. They describe you as such because the facts of millennia of human history and bitter experience prove that such behaviour/attitudes/"perversions" are destructive to the overall stability and wellness of a society when they get out of hand and out of control (note the word 'control') - as has happened in Australia. Let me emphasise, these are NOT our 'opinions' they are the FACTS of human history and experience. Don't argue with people like me - go argue with centuries of bitter human experience. That is, go argue with reality...
Posted by PeterForde, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 11:04:09 AM
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Grim, I certainly am 'for real.' The much respected expression, "the cost of civilisation is eternal vigilance" is a direct observation that evil needs to be stomped on as soon as it raises its...well...evil head. What's the point of being vigilant if you are going to sit with folded arms when that against which you are guarding manifests? Read my previous post about 'the Australian paradigm' and know that...et tu, Brute.
Posted by PeterForde, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 11:32:01 AM
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Are we all 100% Male or 100% Female, or are millions of us 80% to 20% male or female, or 70% to 30% male or female.
Think about what you observe and see, there is more truth in that than what you are told.

Some men are big blokey alpha males 100% down to their boot straps. Some men are more sensitive looking in build and personality but percentage wise they are still very much on the hetrosexual side of the male coin although obviously having more feminine traits.

Ditto for females.

I don’t think the mixing of male and femaleness is a perversion but is actually a normality of nature. The homosexuals are just more noticeable because they are right on the cross -the- line point.

I think this could actually be proven if studied enough. So to all those out there thinking the homosexuals are the only gender benders, consider what your own percentage of male and female combination may be as compared to the ultra sex pot female(Marilyn Munroe) or the ultra macho muscle man.
Fall a bit short of 100% do you?
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 12:37:00 PM
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