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By Mark S. Lawson, published 4/2/2011Yet another cyclone is bearing down on Queensland's coast this summer - what is driving them?
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Posted by Curmudgeon, Sunday, 6 February 2011 11:18:26 AM
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Bonmot, you are in 'good' company by suggesting that "Every government will have to make strategic policy decisions in the next few years but that they should have to wait until they can validate an unknown unknown is just plain stupid. "
The 4th February The Australian(http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/we-risk-deep-subversion-of-climate-effort-garnaut/story-fn59niix-1225999796798) reports: "Ross Garnaut has hit back at opponents of climate change action, declaring that uncertainty about global temperature rises increases the case for cutting emissions rather than doing nothing..." Rather, the uncertainty about the causes of climate change dictates that there should be rigorous review of climate science, before any policy measures are contemplated. This review should be undertaken by a properly constituted Royal Commission, so as to minimise the bias of the pro-AGW scientists that have the ear of Garnaut and the Labor Govt. The Oz article goes on to say that Garnaut's paper squarely takes on the climate change sceptics, arguing that there was no peer-reviewed scientific research in the past five years that gave strength to their views. In so doing, Garnaut adopts the same arrogant approach as the pro-AGW scientists, namely, that no one has the right to question the veracity of their case. Warmists should realise that climate change sceptics merely acknowledge the fact that there is no scientific evidence, peer-reviewed or otherwise, that anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions have any significant measurable effect on average global temperature. If Garnaut and his fellow warmists are so sure of their case, then they should have no hesitation in having it examined before a Royal Commission. To implement policies without first reviewing the climate science, as they advocate, amounts to professional negligence Posted by Raycom, Sunday, 6 February 2011 12:11:27 PM
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alarmists
in denial over forecasts panic Posted by rpg, Sunday, 6 February 2011 12:27:41 PM
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So many comedians, I think an RPG has gone off near his head:) Again!
Global observations. See, its not hard. NEXT. Posted by Deep-Blue, Sunday, 6 February 2011 1:07:58 PM
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Astrology? No, just objective observation. Extreme weather events are increasing. This is in agreement with the predictions of climate scientists. You can see for yourself at the BOM site:
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/extremes/timeseries.cgi Or you could look at the global situation at the NOAA site: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/indicators/ What is the supporting evidence for the increase in extreme weather events being part of a natural climatic cycle? Attack the science for the rigor you think it lacks by all means, but the prediction of increasing extreme weather events seems to be accurate. Posted by Fester, Sunday, 6 February 2011 1:33:55 PM
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rpg,
Yasi was Not a Category 3 when it crossed the coast: it was a Cat 5 when it hit Mission Beach and surrounds, yet quickly dropped to a Cat 4 when its energy supply - the ocean - was no longer feeding it. Yasi started over 34C water in the Coral Sea - Hurricane Katrina started over 32C water. Posted by McReal, Sunday, 6 February 2011 2:11:01 PM
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Puzzling over your response - I assume you're neither stupid, nor crazy - it has occured to me you may not be thinking back more than a few years. What you say is almost true if you if you don't go back beyond, say, 2008.
I go back decades and I've read at least part of the original material and,I assure you, CSIRO has been ringing alarm bells just as hard as it can for years, but perhaps not so loudly in the last two or three years. If you want proof of this go and look at the Garnaut report, which uses CSIRO projections. This forecasts the collapse of agriculture in the Murray-Darling basin in a matter of decades. There is nothing in there about PDO or cycles or anything else that might indicate we were at an historical low in rainfall. The one qualification that I can recall is that the report also pointed out that more CO2 might initially help plants grow faster.
You can continue to deny that CSIRO and every other part of the climate industry was not busy telling us all that we're doomed (mostly - a few did say higher temperatures may not be all bad), but you will find ourself isolated and ignored. Best to agree that much of what was initially forecast was wrong, and move on.