You're right Shintaro, Bob Brown is definitely not a happy anything, he is a total misery.

Sorry Pelican, it is now confirmed that CFCs have been proven innocent.

New research has shown that it was not the c CFCs. Their elimination has had no effect on the Ozone hole. It is in fact growing again.

You've got to watch these academic types Pelican. That publish or perish syndrome leads to so many of them going off half cocked. Then having their entire Carree "cocked" up, if they admit they were wrong.

/// New research has shown that it was not the c CFCs. Their elimination has had no effect on the Ozone hole. It is in fact growing again ///

Well Hasbeen, if that is right, there goes the credibility of "Merchants of Doubt" (By Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. Conway).

A book that has been spuiked as the definitive answer as to why it is so hard to sell AGW to the public (and cited on this forum recently as proof of the sinister motives of sceptics).

One of the central tenets of the book is that the experts had the ozone story down pat. And the only ones who challenged it were these horrible merchants of doubt funded by big corporates with has evil intent.The same big corporates and mercenary figures who were seeking to undermine the case for AGW.

Incidentally , it made a similar argument about anyone who challenged ANY aspect of "The Silent Spring" (By Rachel Carson).

And interestingly, included Bjørn Lomborg a merchant of doubt.

I hope their publishers off load their stockpile of copies before words get around

Dear Shintaro....

you write 3 lines :) but it's not a Haiku... a haiku is mean't to leave the reader up in the air and finish the thought themselves correct?

Your post makes too much sense for a haiku.

Bishop Brown... yep.. he is definitely experiencing megalomania.

Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, it's no accident that the new natural enemy of the "free-marketeers" has become the environmentalists. This is even despite the fact that Greenpeace is significantly funded by certain corporate interests.

They are constantly being labelled as "leftists" and "extremists" when there are actually a lot of conservatives among them who don't want to see unrestrained and unregulated development.

Misrepresenting long-term sustainability and other social interests as being somehow against the public interest is not only unfair, it's also bizarre.

Hardly "Bishop" Brown

Gay environmentalists

Do not qualify

JL Deland, Thursday, 20 January 2011 3:30:41 PM
You need a history refresher course , the Greens and the ALP did a Preferences deal that hinged on the ALP stopping forestry management practices that required burning combustible forest floor rubbish and non indigenous shrubbery that ignited produces heat that ignites the inflammable eucalypt oil contained in the green leaves at the heads of the Eucalypt's ; a diesel engine will run on eucalypt oil (not recommended it's octane level is too high).
So all that tragedy lies squarely on the heads of Bob Brown and the ALP preference brokers . Nothing to do with any other Political Party.