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Lights off: Part III : Comments

By Kellie Tranter, published 13/1/2011

A distributed electricity network based on solar trumps the need to even think of privatisation as well as guaranteeing supply security.

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Dear Kellie, I just couldn’t leave this “trilogy” alone any longer. The Advocacy Block constantly has all the answers without seemingly understanding the questions.

Everything appears to be the subject of grand “justifications” which drill down into ever more complex analysis of diversionary trivia. Predictable though this may be it just makes things a whole lot worse.

As part of the advocacy block, you need to understand why you are there. You are there to keep the dream alive.

The advocacy block has three elements, formal which is the Political/legislative component, the Organic Advocacy or Autopoietic Network and Commercial Opportunists.

The informal or organic parts are those that support the formal parts. These include advocacy media, academia, intelligencia, commentariat, advocacy science and ideological politics. These are the elements that drive or influence electoral opinion and votes. It is these influences that drive populist legislation by politicians.

The common element has been that both the organic and formal parts react instantaneously and without formal communications. “It” simply reacts organically, no nervous system and no brain, just organic reaction in defense. The fact that this is evident points to “tactical defense” of a situation that is not controlled by any of the players, in fact this evidences that the players are actually controlled by “it”. This is perhaps a reason for so much belligerence, anger, animosity and vilification. Those supporting the phenomena are actually captive to it and have absolutely no control over it.

It seems to have started naively 1978 as a conservation movement, achieved some political attention because it had voter value and was subsequently high jacked by opportunists and vested interests. Politicians have gradually bought-in and have legislated their support and sponsorship to harness these votes. Public support still lags political pragmatism so politicians will still find it electorally difficult to bail out, but the gap is narrowing. It has now taken on a life of its own which may explain why it faces so much criticism and why it has no strategic defenses, only tactical.

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Posted by spindoc, Friday, 14 January 2011 9:52:53 AM
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Interesting article.
A thorium experimental reactor is being built in India.
If successful it would probably cause a stampede in that direction.
For solar panels to be put onto every house would require changes to
local council tree preservation regulations.
Many a roof is shaded by local trees, and if anyone has ever tried to
have a tree removed, you would know that we will be living in caves
before you could get agreement. They prefer you to die from falling
limbs first.

Windfarms were always destined to be a failure.
Their output falls to the cube root of the fall in wind speed.
That alone tells you they cannot be successful.

Solar and batteries would make you really off grid but it really is
only for the enthusiast and those in remote locations.
For every Tom Dick & Harry the technical maintenance requirement
would probably make it a financial failure.

Thorium is probably the best long term hope.
In the meantime dig up that coal and worry about how much we are exporting.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 14 January 2011 9:54:32 AM
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Continued:

It is these elements which “bind” the organic components through Autopoietic Networks. They share common goals, common reactions and shared cognitive behavior. They share the same “organization and structure” (informal) and they communicate with the same conversation through “Languaging and Emotioning”. It is self-organizing and self-referencing through its connection with “its” world. The individual entities in the organic components are typically those without formal power.

AGW orthodoxy appears to survive almost exclusively through political sponsorship; the advocacy block fully understands this. This is why so much effort is being expended to shore up this support. Interestingly, it was the advocacy block itself that removed and continues to block all but “their” selective science, now it has left itself with only the political/electoral tactical defense. How tactically stupid?

Skepticism was created by the advocacy block; it continues to drive public and professional division and anger by supporting the very things that created skepticism in the first place.

1. The absolute authority of the UN over the “orthodoxy”
2. The mandatory single “orthodoxy”
3. The mandatory application of “selective” science that supports only that orthodoxy.

Since these elements are interdependent, a failure of any one will see a collapse of all.

It is curious that so many in the advocacy block are well educated, professional, high profile and influential. In spite of this it seems incapable of understanding that its organic nature promotes shallow, ill conceived, reactionary and damaging rhetoric, all “tactical defenses”.

It is partly responsible for not only the economic damage being inflicted but more importantly for the diversion of public funds into futile, immature and non productive technologies which might have been put to better use. Meanwhile the Commercial Opportunists, the big end of town, are cleaning us out.

The advocacy block would seem to be left with the following options, to jump ship now, place a bob each way, formulate an exit plan or go the whole nine yards and say “please God, let me be right”.

Just keep the dream alive as long as you possibly can.
Posted by spindoc, Friday, 14 January 2011 9:55:01 AM
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Solar panels work quite well in shade, in fact they work under a street light. The only thing that stops production is dark.
With soft start refrigerator and freezer, you can run on 3 batteries 24 hrs.
Posted by 579, Friday, 14 January 2011 10:13:01 AM
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579 have you heard of the Onan company?

They build reasonably well sound proofed demand start generators, particularly for boats. Most yachties hate noise, so they go through the full gambit of solar, & wind charged battery banks to light their yachts. Most of them also have an engine driven generation system, supposedly as back up.

It is amazing just how many of them, at least those of them who have any money left after wasting a fortune on renewables, install an Onan generator. For those quiet loving yachties this is an admission of defeat, to install another noisy engine, but they do it to escape those confounded constantly failing renewables.

I was at a joyous burial recently. A mate had finally put together enough money to run the mains power 17Km across the paddocks to his homestead.

The party was to celebrate dropping the big diesel generator, the small diesel generator, the wind generator, all the batteries, & solar cells into a huge hole he had dug. We were all supposed to push some of the dirt in over the junk, but we couldn't get his wife off the dozer. She wanted to be sure none of the rubbish could ever get out she said.

Yes he knew the line would go down a few times a year, but that would be heaven, compared to fighting with "that solar junk" or paying for all that diesel.

I don't know anyone who has lived with home generation for more than a couple of years, even with brand new gear, who doesn't feel the same way.

Oh, I used to fix the junk for plantations in PNG.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 14 January 2011 5:11:25 PM
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I take it that Hasbeen doesn't believe in renewable power. Each to their own beliefs.
With 35 yr warranty i am not expecting trouble any time soon.
The first solar system has now passed the 45th yr of operation.
It all comes down to home economics i suppose.
It is not law to have such devices, it's up to the individual.
Posted by 579, Friday, 14 January 2011 6:53:51 PM
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