David, *she* is making extremely practical and fundamental observations about the law. I don't know how you could have missed it.

In this country our law says that anyone who claims asylum, no matter how they arrive, on boats, with papers, with money or without, is legally entitled to go through the proper legal processes to assess whether or not they are refugees and entitled to re settlement or not.

This is our domestic law. Therefore, it doesn't matter how much else you or anybody else rails and shrieks about it, boat arrivals are absolutely legal and have to be properly assessed.

It's the law. End of story. Asylum seekers come here because we invite them.

If you don't like it, get the law changed. If you can't be bothered doing that, I guess you'll just have to find a way to live with the laws of the country in which you reside, like everybody else.

Its seems we look after the world more than our own kind. Just look at the huge amounts of funding given, and why schools and infrastructure in general, are sadly neglected. Our pensioners cant even match the way the rest do, and if that's not bad enough....the government has the hide to ask you for flood relief.

http://tinyurl.com/4vgzn9r

Just shows how much money they really do have, doesn't it!

Yes Australia! let more rats in of their sinking ship.

Good people.....can I pat you all on the head?.....silence of the lambs....and what sound does a sheep make:)

And this is the government that cares for you...lol

BLUE

illegal immigrant Dictionary definition.
someone who comes to live in another country without official permission

i.e. enters the country without a visa.

The indicator that their method of entry was extra legal is the 5-10yr jail sentence for the crews of the boats.

The propaganda is try to PC wash the terms attached to the boat people.

Considering that about 20% of the boat people are presently refused asylum these are definitely illegals.

There is no other way to define the smuggling of people into Australia other than as illegal.

The boats are officially called “SIEV”; which means “Suspected illegal entry vehicle.” Therefore to my simple and legally uneducated, mind those aboard the craft are attempting to make an entry into Australia contrary to the laws of Australia. And so are suspected illegal entrants.

It would seem to me that a brief session in a federal magistrate’s court could change the word “suspected” into “proved.”

One other thing as a sovereign nation does not Australia have the right to pass whatever laws it thinks fit, to protect our borders. Further as a Sovereign nation does not Australia have the right to withdraw from any international treaty if it so wishes.

Perhaps Dr. Wilson would be so good as to advise us further on these points of law.

Anti Green -

The passengers on the boats declare themselves immediately as asylum seekers. Therefore they are no longer, in law, considered to be "illegal immigrants," because they have requested asylum. They are not trying to secretly enter the country and hide themselves amongst the general population.

In contrast, those who arrive by plane, with papers, overstay their visas and do not request asylum, are illegally in the country. There are some 55, 000 of these at last count. I don't hear anybody making much of a fuss about them.

The SIEV is a separate issue, and the crew and owners of such vessels are prosecuted, not the passengers.

Of course Australia as a sovereign country makes it own laws, and voluntarily signs international conventions.

We have made the law that says asylum seekers are legal entrants who are allowed to request refugee status, no matter how they arrive. If they aren't found to be refugees they can be deported.

We voluntarily signed the UNHCR Convention. The country you live in has voluntarily undertaken these commitments. No amount of complaining about it will change this. You have to either accept it, or work to change it, or leave and live in another country where the laws do not permit asylum seekers to request sanctuary. There are a few of those left.

When Tony Abbott says he's going to stop the boats and turn them around, he's talking through his hat. Unless he plans on breaking his own country's laws.

Briar rose is right

If you are against the law

Work to repeal it

Calling people names

Like "illegals" only promotes

Dumb fear and loathing