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By Kellie Tranter, published 7/1/2011New South Wales and electricity privatisation - what is behind it.
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Posted by KAEP, Sunday, 9 January 2011 1:58:22 PM
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Aha! so now we know the new trick the ALP have in store for New South Wales! I am Kellie and I am nothing to do with the ALP (Yeah right!) vote for me and I will give you everything your heart desires hahahaha! Except I am just a ALP plant the same as the "Independant" in Victoria in 1999 who got Jeff Kennett out.
This is the same nonsense as local elections where Labour put in 2 or 3 canditates who go in on seperate platforms but preference each other to just get the seat for the ALP. If this works NSW deserve all they get but I think it is rich bordering on dishonest for Kellie to claim any independance! I have heard her on ABC radio, Labour through and through! So how many other ALP plants are going to be foisted on long suffering NSW? Posted by JBowyer, Sunday, 9 January 2011 6:09:54 PM
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Kellie has not even mentioned the real problem that is arriving.
First, I normally am not in favour of the government being in business. However electricity is such an important utility and it is facing such an uncertain future that the whole system from mine to street poles should be a government responsibility. With both world oil and coal depletion over the coming years, even the future price of coal is very uncertain. It is impossible for a business to look ahead and be able to know what the conditions will be. Many financial people think they do but they generally expect business as usual. Well it won't be and we cannot afford for they to make mistakes. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 10 January 2011 11:08:36 AM
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http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11452#194954
Arjay, thanks for that one mate, it's a beauty, i have heaps of similar links, some of which you may have already seen, i AM part of the silent revolution already & will be posting that one, widely along with all the others i have on file, but i am also now involved with several socio/political groups that want to see some improvements, in the land of OZ. Through friends here, of non British decent i have found heaps of similar stuff from all over the world & post it on facebook to Aussies, Canadians, Yanks, Poms, you name it, got another one from Argentina the other day. This is a small selection of my all time favourites. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138597812890776821# 3 hours, but covers the "international bankster" history in detail. http://www.angelfire.com/music2/fullcircle/mas2.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt These 2 show, who REALLY wrote "the communist manifesto" years before Marx published it, "in his name" & why, to stop the blue collar, working class, proletariat from "co-operating" with the white collar, middle class, proletariat as they had been, during the British civil war, French & American revolutions against the international banksters, royals, aristocrats, big catholic & anglican churches, big business, "divide & conquer" was the answer to all their problems. That is why they also funded other Loony, Left theorists to come up with Fascism as well as Communism. Every Loony, Left, think tank or "Red/green" NGO, now or over the last several centuries was started by a tax deductible donation from the "super rich". http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm Rothschild's only in timeline format. http://www.prisonplanet.com/fox-admits-to-planting-political-brainwashing-in-popular-tv-shows.html MSM + hollywood. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U&feature=player_embedded Left, Right out of politics by both sides. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki4cqqMZ7JE&feature=player_embedded#! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb039VYTnUI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtudNpL30BU&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLPG_HplrA&feature=related NWO. Posted by Formersnag, Monday, 10 January 2011 12:46:21 PM
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Arjay, I watched that link you gave and while long it was very interesting.
Watch what happens in the US in March when the US runs out of money. The Debt clock is showing $T14,02 debt at present and they only have $T14.7 authorised. So it will be interesting to watch. We don't seem to have a limit, we just keep borrowing from China. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 10 January 2011 4:00:08 PM
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Arjay you are correct.
The NSW government can fund new power plants with credit. The price of the credit should reflect the risk of non repayment. This risk is near enough to zero. The people of NSW will pay back the credit from the sale of electricity. With interest free credit any renewable energy plant that costs less than $10,000 per continuous kw will make a profit at current wholesale prices of about 6 cents per kwh and the credit will be repaid within 20 years. The argument for charging interest on government loans is that the money may get a higher return elsewhere. That is we have "lost opportunity cost". This is a load of nonsense for a service that we must have. Renewable energy per continuous kw (which means the average output of a power plant over the course of a year) is about $16,000 for a small set of solar panels on a household roof, to $8,000 for large scale solar photovoltaics, to $4,000 for wind power, tidal, geothermal and solar thermal. Renewables are profitable today at today's prices and can be built in NSW with interest free credit. The interest free credit can be given to the tax payers of NSW and they can use it to purchase debentures in power companies which will pay dividends (or cut the price of energy) as well as repay the loans from the prices currently being paid for energy. Competition comes from having a variety of renewable energy projects in which the citizens of NSW can invest their interest free loans. Posted by Fickle Pickle, Monday, 10 January 2011 4:21:56 PM
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If Macquarie Street had any humanitarian inclinations at all in their immigration intent they would be charging immigrants due levies in order to maintain the standard of living of those of us who are HERE, as well as that of the migrants themselves. Thats Humanitarianism.
Immigration for power and money for the elite in government and their corporate mates is a crime that must surely be reckoned before too long & the power sale is JUST the vehicle that will bring that reckoning. The principle of the Second Law of Thermodynamics guarantees it! If you put a restricting tap on the States Main Entropy flow you WILL very abrubtly reach a THERMAl EQUILIBRIUM in the populace. Those who have even a small understanding of Thermodynamics KNOW what this means for NSW's future and will already be taking precautions
ITM what we get from all forms of Government in Australia is an addiction to GST revenues and political power from sheer numbers of migrants very voteworthy & grateful to Government and spiteful and counter-competitive to the Australian community.
And Ms Tranter's insightful analysis of the NSW 'Electricity Funnel', without reference to migrants who are forcing higher costs & lower standards is telling on her own motivation in all this.