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Science, politics and climate change : Comments

By Michael Rowan, published 30/12/2010

When it comes to climate conservative politicians have declared war on science.

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Anti Green,

Didn't you know. The scince is in. You're on the wrong side.

At least thats how they see it. They can't see that their attempts to impugn the motives of those scientists (and there are many) who question the AGW orthodoxy is politicisation of science.

Funny really. Well it would be if they weren't so mad keen on bankrupting us.
Posted by PaulL, Thursday, 30 December 2010 9:51:03 AM
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History has shown many of these 'scientist' to be pure charlatans who make some of the disgraced American evangelist look very mild. What happened to the promised ice age? What happened to the huge hole in the ozone layer that was going to kill us all? What has happened to global warming in Europe and America. These guys have no shame. They are certainly heretics when it comes to 'science'. Mind you the outcome of all predictions based on the evolution fantasy always turns out to be bad astrology. Twisted observations lead to twisted outcomes. The mug tax payer will pick up the bill.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 30 December 2010 10:35:17 AM
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“Mind you the outcome of all predictions based on the evolution fantasy always turns out to be bad astrology.”

With that, Runner sums up their philosophy very well for the Denialist camp
Posted by colinsett, Thursday, 30 December 2010 10:44:06 AM
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Oh Dear Michael, now we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. The “laying of blame” has its place in the trauma cycle and I think we know where you are. As a high profile person with a great deal of personal credibility at stake as a result of “nailing your colors to the mast”, you seem to have gone for the “Oh God, please let me be right” option.

You are probably right to focus upon politicians, but not right to focus only upon those politicians who disagree with you.

It would be fair to say that the AGW phenomena now survives only through political sponsorship however, politics is a fickle business and warmers sense that it is politics that will eventually end it.

The reason for this is because warmers have denied any open debate, they have told us that “the science is settled”, that there is “scientific consensus”, that the “majority of scientists agree” and that the worlds most respected institutions, scientific and political, have got the assessments right to such an extent that we must act.

Unfortunately, if the polls are even close, there is at least half the population who do not swallow this and the last time I looked we still get to vote.

So be it, now that warmers have successfully removed any further scientific debate you are left with politics and only politics. Politicians depend on votes, not science and as a consequence, you must continue to drive your proselytizing into the non-scientific public forum to create those votes.

I’m sorry but you started it. Now you have to wake up each morning with the “terrors” at the prospect that politics will let you down and utterly destroy your personal credibility.

A rock and a hard place I suspect. Warmers will never agree to open scientific debate, firstly because it is at best “flakey” and secondly because you know deep down you have been had.

There will be little sympathy for “eco-bullies” when this phenomena collapses.
Posted by spindoc, Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:15:28 AM
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colinsett writes

'With that, Runner sums up their philosophy very well for the Denialist camp'

Yea and the philosophy of the alarmist camp is to hold no one accountable for decades of failed predictions and Government waste based on 'science' models. Just keep rewriting your textbooks as last months needs ripping up.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:49:17 AM
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[Deleted. Attacks the author, but nothing else. Essentially a flame.]
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 30 December 2010 11:49:39 AM
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