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Wikileaks framed, Manning scapegoated : Comments

By Sam Vaknin, published 23/12/2010

It seems improbably easy - over 254,000 classified documents land in your lap - so maybe it is too easy.

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Just goes to prove the axiom on the West, all is mirage, smoke and mirrors. What is the truth in any part of it?
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 23 December 2010 12:14:36 PM
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Ding Ding Ding, my BS meter was in the red after reading this one. Any evidence? or is this a dirty word. Exempting most of the BS from this article we are left with the US trying to spin the best of a bad situation as well as the Roman principle of cui bono (to whose benefit) best described in this New York Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/21/opinion/21iht-edcohen21.html
Posted by Stezza, Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:03:32 PM
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Thanks for the link Stezza, great article. Exposes the "who benefits" fraud for what it is.

One wonders who these conspiracy theorists are suggesting this "US counterintelligence" is aimed at? Since only conspiracy types would give credibility to this nonsense.

This is simply another example of the internets conspicous failure to increase the sum total of "knowledge". There has been massive increase in useless information and ill informed opinion. But has it advanced our understanding of the world we live in? It hard to conclude that it has. Especially when you are faced with "dog bombs" like this.
Posted by PaulL, Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:24:10 PM
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I did publish an article on November 23, 2010 - six days prior to Wikileaks. Here are two URLs of dozens (the article was heavily syndicated):

http://www.globalpolitician.com/26654-korea-china-usa-unification

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/201254

The article contains the same information later published by Wikileaks.

This is a fact. Cope with it. How did I get this info six days before Wikileaks did? Any theories among you bright lot?

Sam
Posted by samvaknin, Thursday, 23 December 2010 11:07:15 PM
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samvaknin I would like to see links to supporting evidence from others, for the case that you put up.
Posted by PeterA, Saturday, 25 December 2010 9:56:08 AM
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Hi,
Private Manning is young soldier with a conscience who tried other avenues to bring attention to the war crimes being committed.
I would like to know what our government as a member of the UN is doing about the inhumane way he is being treated afterall he is innocent until proven guilty.

No war is ever justified nor is torture as it degrades us all.

some good info here :
http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2777
Posted by MarsBar, Monday, 27 December 2010 4:18:35 PM
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This article assumes that the Wikileaks released the documents the the same time it received them. How long did Wikileaks, Der Spiegel, the Guardian and the NYT have them before they were released? Second, is it possible that someone not involved in the Wikileaks release wanted to get the US Korean story out. I believe if Korea could be reunited, China would be willing to provide extensive aid. Nobody rational wants a place like NK on their border.
Posted by 124c4u, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 11:18:13 AM
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The following link keeps a regular update with regards to wikileaks and Bradley Manning with a petition also ..

http://firedoglake.com/bradley-manning-wikileaks-timeline/
Posted by MarsBar, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 3:07:09 PM
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