Yes indeed, Poirot, and since we are assuming that governments' -particularly the US government's - internal security systems are NOT rock solid, what have we learnt from the Wikileaks so far ? What Machiavellian, devious, lying schemes of the US have been uncovered ? What bullying of weaker countries have the leaks uncovered ? What plotting and planning t oinvade have we learnt about ?

Isn't it actually amazing that - so far - so LITTLE of what we on the Left have always believed about the Evil Empire has come to pass ? That the Yanks are as blunt with incompetent and corrput governments as we might expect them, in a dirty world where all of us, Yanks, us, everybody, has to come down more or less on one side or the other, in a multitude of situation, and every day ?

I'm waiting for the leaks of Russian and Chinese material: then we might see who leans on whom, who double-crosses whom, who lies to whom.

But of course, if Assange leaked any Chinese material, and ever got extradited there, do you think he might get eleven years, or perhaps a bit worse ? Still, it might earn him the Nobel Peace Prize, even posthumously :)

But let's not talk about Liu Xiao Bo, he's not attacking America.

Joe

Loudmouth,

Yes, indeed - but it does beg the question as to why certain echelons of the U.S. ruling elite appear to be having the heebeejeebees over Wikileaks to the extent they are?

Yes, Poirot:

'A FAIR TRIAL FOR ASSANGE ! A FAIR TRIAL FOR LIU XIAO BO !'

That would fit nicely on a poster.

What's sauce for the goose ....

Dear Poirot....

you say:

Wouldn't it be good if "War was the first casualty of Truth."

haha :) YESSssssss...now that WOULD be something.

Unnnnfortunately..those peddling 'truth' are usually motivated by other agenda's and they all seem to end badly for freedom.

Orwells 1984 Remember the Ministry of Truth ?

Me-thinks AlGoreIsRich works for the "ministry of truth". Most of what he says is either just plain ignorant or full of double-speak.

not at all hohum;

AGIR is arguing from an alternative perspective to yours, and it seems to me that is the basis of your belittling him.

also,

Poirot seems for the moment not to care that the second casuality of war might be his standard of living.