Please, God, no, no legally binding agreement which will make us servile to the UN for the rest of our days.

I see Sophie has confidently quoted the highly disreputable Dr Pachauri, Railway engineer with no climate science qualifications, writer of smutty romance novels and former Board Member of the India Oil company. At the time he was promoting lowering the world's carbon emissions he was also working for and promoting the interests of Oil companies and power utilities. What impeccable credentials!

Sophie, you should be a LOT more aware of whose views you are relying upon.

Geez, 600 million for a 'fast start' climate fund. There goes our money again and here comes a Carbon Tax. Hang on to you wallets.

Interesting comment from Otmar Edenhofer, one of the co-chairs of an IPCC working group. In summmary, he says that the climate change issue is not about the environment but rather about the transfer of wealth from the West to the developing world. The Kyoto Protocol was also designed to hamper capitalist approaches to economics.

In these circumstances, we would be wise not to expect much from the hugely expensive discussions in Cancun, which is ironically one of the most opulent and carbon intensive resorts in the world.

Hi Sophie

COP-16 & IPCC: BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE

Alas, is anything more pathetic than the faith and idealism of the young, especially well-meaning arts/law eco-activists?

Sophie, the game is up. COP-16 should be a moratorium on the integrity of the climate science orthodoxy, not about building "trust and co-operation".

The 15,000+ delegates at Cancun apparently missed the COP-15 wake-up call for climate evangelists. They still dream of ensuring "progress can be pushed forward and not stalled by ambiguity and disagreement".

Why is there ambiguity and disagreement? As climatologist Judith Curry noted recently (31 October, 2010): "The question needs to be asked as to whether the early articulation of a preferred policy option by the UNFCCC has stimulated a positive feedback loop between politics, science and science funding that has accelerated the science (and its assessment by the IPCC) towards the policy option (CO2 stabilization) that was codified by the UNFCCC....The net result is an OVERCONFIDENT ASSESSMENT of the importance of greenhouse gases in future climate change, which has brought us to our current position between a rock and a hard place, where we lack the information that we need to understand climate change more broadly..." (www.judithcurry.com)

It is now clear the IPCC became corrupted by an incestuous process that ensured the UN got the outcome it wanted: a bogus >90% certainty declaration about "dangerous" human-induced climate change just around the corner.

As project manager for Climate Reality Week, Sophie, do you not have obligation to bring this controversy to the attention of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition, many of whom presumably know nothing about it?

No wonder some see the IPCC as a criminal organisation trying to establish the greatest Ponzi scheme the world has ever seen. Monetising (and demonising) a beneficial trace gas (CO2) sure is a neat way of transfering big $$$ from the developed to the developing world via UN ticket-clippers.

Enjoy the guitars and tequilla, folks, for the GAME IS UP south of the border, down Mexico way.

Alive (in Warmerland)

"Cancun is an opportunity that should be seized, not sabotaged."

Well, the Japanese have seized it...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/01/cancun-climate-change-summit-japan-kyoto

Quote: "Japan will not inscribe its target under the Kyoto protocol on any conditions or under any circumstances."

And so one more domino goes over...

CANCUN died longgggg ago....when people realized that the Rio Earth Summit was setup by Maurice Strong who quickly installed himself as a director of the Chicago Climate Exchange to make megabucks out of the scam. Copenhagen was a clone of Rio..same socialist drivel.

Of course..scam's are not new to mr Strong...he also bailed on investors when he had inside information about an intended plug pull on government funds for further R&D in the company Molten Metal Technology. (He sold when shares were worth $34, but by monday they had KERRRASSSHED to almost nutting. That's when everyone ELSE found out.

Czech President Václav Klaus said that "This ideology preaches earth and nature and under the slogans of their protection – similarly to the old Marxists – wants to replace the free and spontaneous evolution of mankind by a sort of central, now global, planning of the whole world"

Mr Strong and Mr Gore are not happy chappies at the moment as their Pet Project 'Carbon Trading' has hit the floor... gone south.. worth...NOTHING... jussst have a LOOK at the graph...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/31/chicago-climate-exchange-devalues-50-new-record-low/