Loudmouth we have the absolute scientific proof that cave dwellers in Afghanistan could not possibly do 911.

Much of the Muslim terrorism exists because of Western Imperialism.The Industrial Military Complex want to control the world's energy and resources,so they demonise socially backward Muslim countries with oil, in order to conquer them.

Why does not the West want to save Zimbabwe,Burma and a miriad of poor countries that are oppressed? That's it! They forgot to find the oil that makes them terrorists.

Arjay - "Why does not the West want to save Zimbabwe,Burma and a miriad of poor countries that are oppressed?"

So would you then support action to 'save' these countries? Or will you invariably find reasons why each and every country is just an distraction from other countries or excuse for some criminality.

This was one of my main reasons for writing the piece. During the Iraq war many of us rightly complained that there were better targets that should have been addressed. But to prove it wasn't simply an excuse to oppose for personal or partisan reasons, we on the left need to now follow through and say which and how we should deal with those countries regimes.

Arjay,

" ... cave dwellers in Afghanistan could not possibly do 911 ... "

Who on earth says this is so ? Al Qa'ida and all of the other Khalifa/Khilafa-related groups, i.e. reactionary Islamists, i.e. those who 'logically' believe that Islam must be imposed on the entire world, by force and terror if necessary, on you and me and everyone else, in order for the Koran to become real for all of us, come from all sorts of walks of life.

Please don't be so idiotically simplistic about the multititude of atrocities that have been committed in the cause of a Caliphate over the last fifteen or more years. Why assume that they are all cave-dwellers ?

And in what conceivable universe is al-Qa'ida, in any sense, progressive, radical, left-wing ?

And what has this to do with North Korea ? As a Leftist since birth (hence the name), I'm appalled with how often 'socialism' has degenerated into fascism, and the so-called DPRK, North Korea is a ghastly example of this, regardless of the US, capitalism or the military-industrial complex: its faults are sui generis, internally generated, if you like, innate. And, I suspect, innate to the entire socialist project-in-action. Think Katyn, the laogai, Cambodia.

No amount of ducking and diving, and conspiracy theory, can confuse that fact.

So yes, as you noted earlier, do we defend human rights and freedom, or fascism ?

Joe

Still in your own fantasy world I notice, Arjay.

>>I defy any of you to disprove the science of freefall... In fact member of our group has offered $ 100,000 reward for anyone who disprove the physics and the chemistry.No takers?<<

We've been through this before. There is no defined challenge, and no "reward". It is all a figment of your hyper-active imagination.

And your JFK sound-bite is classic Arjay-confusion.

Here's the speech in full.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03NewspaperPublishers04271961.htm

He was talking about Communism, Arjay. The Cold War. As was everybody back then.

>>we have the absolute scientific proof that cave dwellers in Afghanistan could not possibly do 911<<

Apart from the absolute arrogance - and ignorance - contained in the "cave-dweller" description, the incontrovertible fact remains that you have no proof whatsoever that contradicts the commission's findings.

Let alone "absolute" or even "scientific" proof.

One day you will wake up to the fact that you have wasted an entire portion of your life on this rubbish, when you could have been out there doing something constructive for yourself.

I see warm and close friends are engaging in light hearted banter! With such camaraderie NK should be a simple issue to resolve. Do the above comments, or rather their divisiveness, point to why we won’t resolve NK (as though it had to be fixed)?

Who is my neighbour that I should care for them?
By what authority do I judge others and carry out sentence?

As Ganhi put it “What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?”

NK requires connection to the world to survive, even if only to the extent the oligarchs of NK import food for themselves. The probability of countries acting in unison by cutting NK off totally is minimal; each acts to their own interests and to their own agenda.

In judging NK are we dealing with an extreme of behaviour that is common across the globe?

I am not sure what the Apes have done to invoke such a harsh criticism Arjay; Primates act out of instinct where our Telebandits operate out of the notion of Fatalist Despotism.

I do not think you will convince me or others of the theory that the state was responsible Directly in 9/11; for the primary reason is that to associate the cognition and ability to Organise and execute is well in excess of the State – Government or any of its Minions to do so; They for the obvious reason that had transpired after the event proved that it was in fact Dysfunctional. Oligarchic and Higher law in structure; to associate Engineering fetes of the kind alleged is well in excess of the Conspiracy charges. The only conspiracy they can execute flawlessly is to Rob everyone.
To charge them with the abillity to acheive any thought by Government is Oxymoronic.

I suspect that J F K met his match when he initially intended to cut military spending and weapons Acquisitions – Who dares interfere in the Iron law of Oligarchs will pay the consequence and fatally .

Communism was never the direct threat to anyone other than it is only a stem of the main threat- And anything that has an association with Collectivism, wether it is Socialism – Communism – Fascism- even egalitarianism- Democracies ; has its direct intention to own you and confiscate your mind and property.

For that is the conspiracy and nothing else. State Elites at war with other state Elites – what the hell does it have to do with you and me , other than to surrender our worth to a pile of despotic morons funding their Imperial motives and or their selfish egos and attitudes.
So they hate each others guts ; Send them to some Anger management classes. heheehheh.