http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11277#190016

Yep, Yabby.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11277#190021

Ludwig, also correct, but was it this way between 1945 & 1972?

i think not, like Ian Leavers from the QLD Police Union, you are finding out that the Red/green/getup/labour/socialist Alliance as an employer is, "Worse than Work Choices".

In the bad old days, if a man worked more than 40 hours a week to provide for his family, he did not have to cook dinner, or do half the "House Work" before being able to spend "Quality Time" with his wife &/or children. Did he?

Another "Time Competitor" is the "Idiot Box".

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11277#190022

Howler, another interesting factoid for you. Since Radical, Extreme, Loony, Left, Lesbian, Fe"Man"Nazism entered the workforce, we now have, 7 times the number of "Dangerous, Evil, Workplace Psychopaths" terrorising the workforce & driving down productivity.

How will we ever compete, in any "Economic Activity" against a Totalitarian, Communist Regime which can repress & WORK its population into obedience, to just about, everything?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11277#190025

Ludwig again, a couple more "REFORMS", or "Weasel Words" for Communist Agenda for you to consider.

1, moving senior & even middle management bureaucrooks off "Award Wages & Salaries" onto "Contracts" with pay & conditions commensurate with the Private Sector.

2, Given that everything the "Loyal Workers" of the Red/green/getup/labour/socialist Alliance do in Politics, Bureaucrookracy, Academia, Journalism, is a "White Ant, Deliberate, Premeditated, Industrial Sabotage, Plan for Failure", in order to bankrupt our entire nation & usher in a UN/IMF/World Bank, NWO, International Socialist Nirvana, all "Public Servants" & especially the Spingandists have to be available, for "Damage Control" 24/7, 365.

'How will we ever compete, in any "Economic Activity" against a Totalitarian, Communist Regime which can repress & WORK its population into obedience, to just about, everything?'

We're miles away and we have all the resources. Why do you want to compete with totalitarian communist regimes?

I think you have too strong a parent. Find your inner child. It's the most disarming feature of all left wing zealots.

Well I just found this top little headline amusing:

*If you're still at work, it's after 5:00 pm and you are reading this - Go Home*

What was the author thinking? It hardly makes sense to complain
about overtime worked, yet he's appealing to those fooling around
on OLO at work.

Houllie, fair enough, you expect to get paid for non
productive hours. At least you are honest about it. You want
the money.

When I had my last business and quite a few staff, we simply
hung a book on the wall. As long as the work was done, I really
didn't care when they arrived or left. They'd write down their
hours and got paid by the hour. Most were extremely honest
about hours worked, but I'd say in a large organisation that
might not work too well. People seem to have less scruples in
ripping off large companies or the Govt.

Yabby,

'Houllie, fair enough, you expect to get paid for non
productive hours. At least you are honest about it. You want
the money.'

I think it's fair enough when I am expected to work overtime for no pay when necessary. If the hours are 9-5, and everyone works until 7, why not just make that the hours, and one can decide whether the hourly rate 9-7 is attractive enough to work there? If you want your workers to work overtime for no pay, you cant exactly have a whinge when they email their friends in work time.

I'd love to work for you if that's the way you do things. Interestingly, when I am a contractor, I take more time off 'sick' than when I'm getting paid for sickies working for a salary. Work choices needs to go even further and flexibility needs to be made available to the workforce as well as the employers.

*Work choices needs to go even further and flexibility needs to be made available to the workforce as well as the employers.*

I fully agree with you on that one, Houllie. I'm kind of semi
retired now, the only work I do is things I am passionate about
and interested in. No more employing lots of staff. But I still
have old staff telling me that working here was the best job they
ever had.

The thing is, there are lots of innovative ways to make things
better for both employers and employees and if its a win-win for
both, why not do it? Happy staff are more productive, money
is not the only thing that drives people.

There are some slack workers out there, but there are also some
shocking managers with no people skills.

It is interesting to compare the Australia Institute’s survey data with the periodic data collected by the Australian Bureau of Statistics asking broadly similar questions. According to the ABS, in 2007:

When taking into consideration the impact that either more or fewer hours of work would have on their pay:
• 65% of employed people were satisfied with the number of hours that they were already working,
• 21% preferred to work fewer hours than they currently worked
• 14% preferred longer hours than they currently work

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/subscriber.nsf/0/1A653F883363040DCA2575C8001ECB4E/$File/63610_apr%20to%20jul%202007%20(re-issue).pdf

In short, the ABS data show much higher levels of satisfaction with current working hours, and a more even balance between those who want more hours and those who want fewer hours.

There may be explanations for this discrepancy – the ABS data are older, the questions may have been phrased differently – but I don’t think these would account for such a big difference.

Personally, I tend to believe the ABS on this subject. They have a bigger sample, hoards of professional statisticians and no ideological axe to grind. At the very least, the discrepancy in the data suggest we should be cautious in reading too much into these survey results.