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Safety first in family law is long overdue : Comments

By Elspeth McInnes, published 16/11/2010

Proposed changes to Australia’s Family Law Act will better support children’s safety.

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Sure benk, control should be defined, perjury should be punished, cases should be investigated. Psychos should be outed,(litigant/practitioner/judge) stats should be properly collected BUT THEY ARE NOT. One could say the system is should'ved all over.

However, while people refuse to focus on the kids who are being abused by perpetrators who wont admit that's what they are, and in 37+ years of trying to define what Dv really is, and how to 'prove it' we still can't get a national definition and the criminal system is absurd! Only those who haven't actually observed it could have faith in it. Go Ozzies go! Imagine if it was a cricket team! We'd soon sort that, but it isn't its just kids. Kids aren't the whole picture by any means, but it would be a good place to start. Well, if so many of the gendered groups could actually hear the opposing truths and stop trying to drown out the other. But that wont happen, there is no value or individual gain in agreeing.

And whomever wrote about stats dastardly step fathers and boyfriends - do you think any of them might also be fathers who abuse their own too?

Oh, women are bad too I hear. Yes, some are. but some of both genders are desperately trying to get safety for kids who are in dire danger - moral, sexual, physical, emotional etc. If you can see there are good and bad examples in both sides, how come so many just dont have a positive word for the real protectors of children of either gender. Re control? Emotional control is awful, cruel, vindictive. But why do you assume only women do it because that's absolutely wrong
Posted by Cotter, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 4:54:53 PM
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ChatzP,
If you want proof, type the words “child abuse + single parent families “ into a search engine and read through the results.

I just did, and one study after another, from Wales in England, to NSW In Australia have similar conclusions. Child abuse is more likely to occur in single parent families than any other family type.

You will also find that child sexual abuse (normally emphasised by academic feminists to alarm people) is only a small portion of child abuse, and the father is the least likely male to sexually abuse his children.

However, this is somewhat a side issue.

The real issue is the discrimination shown by university academics in not presenting full information and in hiding information so as to portray a gender in a negative way.

This is outside of the anti-discrimination policies of the universities that harbor these individuals, but this is ignored by the universities and the discrimination allowed to continue.

The acceptance of this discrimination by universities basically means no information coming from anyone in a university can be relied upon or trusted in any way.
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 5:05:29 PM
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benk:”So convincing your kids that daddy is evil isn't a form of abuse?”

That would depend on one thing… was it a lie. Or we could get right off topic and discuss the word evil being appropriate?

I think I am more on your wavelength here DD: “What we describe here is an industry built on family break-down...”

What industries keep churning from the complete breakdown of a family in Australia? Courts, shrinks, NGO’s administering foster care, early intervention programs, lawyers, prisons, Centrelink, DoCS, counseling services, mediation services, Refuges, Police…and probably many I haven’t thought of.

Plus the courts take the parents money too? In essence can we say Australia runs on failure?

Cotter I think from what I have read the abuse cases aren’t coming up because of the other parent being then accused of not supporting contact and the abuser then receiving more time with the children. Parents get advised to not mention abuse.

Define Child Abuse?
Neglect, sexual abuse, physical abuse, psychological abuse or harm etc and definitions for CS here:
http://www.community.nsw.gov.au/preventing_child_abuse_and_neglect/what_is_child_abuse.html

Vanna you did it, I asked for everyone to leave it out for once but you went ahead and ran with the solo mother stuff. Yay, like old times. I'm gonna guess it is new boyfriend, mum is used to being a victim due to past history? End result if Aussie wants the industry to carry on - child taken into care.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 5:27:59 PM
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Vanna - You are still making assertions based on nothing more than `reported’ child abuse (i.e. allegations) or at best, the untested opinions and speculations of child protection workers. If a malicious neighbour reported to DoCS that you were neglecting or abusing your children, then you would become one of those statistics. If a DoCS worker then said they `believed’ the abuse had occurred it would become `substantiated’ and you would then become a part of another set of statistics, but then you would want the opportunity to challenge that opinion in a Court of law where evidence would have to be produced to prove you had neglected and abused your children, would you not, and to have a full and fair hearing as is your right.
It is only when allegations have undergone due legal process that statistics on child abuse begin to have any validity and utility. And if the case was accepted and proven against yourself in Court, you may still have difficulty in accepting such an outcome.
Your remarks concerning gender bias of authentic research sounds more about `Shooting the messenger, when you don’t like the message’. Unless of course you are also referring to the gender biased `research’ towards fathers put out by the UWS?.
Posted by ChazP, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 5:45:04 PM
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"If you can see there are good and bad examples in both sides, how come so many just dont have a positive word for the real protectors of children of either gender."

I don't think any one group stands out as being "real" protectors of children. Individuals may play a real role but of those in the public eye who do the biggest trumpet blowing about protecting children seem to put other agenda's ahead of children's protection. Children are too often used as pawns to get better outcomes for their parents or to deal with the individuals own issues with the other gender.

Who did you have in mind as real protector's of children?

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 6:11:17 PM
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ChatZ
If you read through this author’s articles you will not find a single positive word ever written about fathers, or about the male gender.

Everything written has been an attempt to denigrate fathers and males and portray them in a negative way.

If someone did the same with aboriginies, they were be immediately regarded as racist, but repeatedly portray fathers or males in a negative way, leave out relevant information, hide information, selectively make public information, and denigrate the male gender in every way possible, and this is 100% fully acceptable by the university system.

The author is living proof.
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 7:56:17 PM
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