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Behind closed doors : Comments

By Jay Thompson, published 11/11/2010

We need to think of ways to discuss and represent s*x that do not entail exploitation.

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Some interesting responses already!

Julie, it was never my intention to demonise Kids Free 2B Kids or construct your group as a 'straw man'. As I stated, I'm also deeply disturbed by deliberately 'sexualised' representations of children and adolescents. I mentioned your group (briefly and, yes, perfunctorily) as one of several groups devoted to criticising representations of children and adolescents in inappropriately 'sexual' situations. No offense was ever meant.
Posted by jayt, Thursday, 11 November 2010 2:15:00 PM
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JayG, currently there world wide concern over the americanization of mental health.

I use this because the drug companies use a tactic, where they change a cultures perception and the way a culture treats mental health issue.(it maybe a good thing and then maybe not)

There was a very good program on abc radio about this.

So basically mental health issues are being viewed through the lense of the american psychological society. Of which influences the Australian Psychological society view and attitudes.

There is the belief that if a person is exposed too, certain stressors that they will then begin to exhibit certain types of behaviours, this is not necessarily the case, but there is a whole mechanism in place to convince people that they need treatment.

There is a subtle form of brainwashing. One only needs to look at the effects that the recovered memory syndrome created. In the name of 'conscious raising'.

Read Meredith Marans book 'My Lie'.

Secondly what I wrote was taken out of context.

"Emotive annologies are used in order to trick the logical thinking part of the brain, as demonstrated in this article such as associating sea foam, with semen.

These people who make these associations are incredibly warped and sick. but also very dangerous."

Daphne Patai drew on the work of Joel Best. I am sure that there are people who do have very good intentions, but sadly there are many people who do not.

One only needs to look at the numbers of innocent people gaoled for abuses that never happened.
Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 11 November 2010 2:25:41 PM
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The number of people jailed for abuses that never happened.
If the jury says u guilty then u go to jail. How do u stop that.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 11 November 2010 3:36:15 PM
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Dear Ozandy,
I am sorry mate but you have it wrong, God is a friend of sinners. He loves the person but hates the sin. It is them religious folk who follow the law who hate people not God. The law came through the man of God, Moses. Grace and Truth came through the Son of God, Jesus. He came to seek and save the lost. God is good. All who call on the name of Lord shall be saved. Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the father. People perish from lack of knowledge. So will you follow the twisted word (wick'ed = twist'ed), "has God indeed said", or the Word of God, Jesus. An individual choice on who you chose to trust, God through his son Jesus, or culture and tradition through his son Adam. If Jesus had been conceived by Joseph he could not save for a house divided shall fall. That is why the bible says he was conceived by the incorruptible seed not corrupt seed of sinful man, Adam. If you have all knowledge you are a better man then the rest of us, Gungadin.
Posted by Richie 10, Friday, 12 November 2010 4:31:00 AM
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Congratulations to Jay Thompson for drawing attention to the downside of groups who are critical of the sexualisation of culture.

While there is much to agree with in their arguments, my experience with some of these people is that they can be quite tunnel visioned, to their own and other's detriment, and they do not take criticism kindly. To the degree that in one instance, a group refused to allow any contrary opinion a voice on their website. This resulted in a very one-sided and tragically inaccurate representation of a serious situation.

It's sad when an ideology takes precedence over reality, but it's not unusual. I find much to support in the arguments of critics of cultural sexualisation of our young. But when they bray for blood, and refuse to deeply examine a situation for fear of it not fitting their paradigm, I'm not interested in them.

We urgently need to address the issues the author raised. Our young are being subjected to intolerable pressures, even our very young. But repression is not the way to go, as we ought to know from our history.
Posted by briar rose, Friday, 12 November 2010 5:47:03 AM
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Briar Rose

People from a variety of viewpoints can be quite intolerant of other opinions. The first step in open dialogue about sex might be an acceptance of the right of others to hold different views and an attempt to genuinely understand other people's views without straw man type attacks.
Posted by benk, Friday, 12 November 2010 10:28:09 AM
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