Shrode ,you are right.The so called experts haven't a clue how the complexity of climate works.They have been studying climate for a few decades,but climate works in cycles of thousands or millions of years.

The Sun is the biggest influence on climate.This is an ideological/political driven agenda.If AGW theory stopped tomorrow,hundreds and thousands of jobs would be at risk.It is now an industry with it's own agenda and bias.

Money is a powerful motivator even in the scientific community which has been starved of funds until the last few decades with the birth of AGW theory.Govts can make $ trillions in taxes and corporates can make $ trillions trading in carbon ,the basis of life and our energy.This sacred cow will not die and easy death.

<< The more one reads and learns about climate change, severe and devastating effects appear to be more and more unlikely. >>

Really, anti-green?

Don't forget that the rate of carbon emissions is most likely to rapidly increase for a long time to come - for as long as we have relatively easy access to fossil fuels and other energy sources can't compete.

I really do find it quite staggering with the climate-change-related changes we are seeing now, that anyone could think that we won't be in for some pretty major negative consequences if we just keep on doing what are doing now, at the same old progressively greater rate that we've always done it.

I note that there was nothing in your post about continuous human expansion. So while it might be a little off-topic, let me ask you: are you happy with continuous rapid population growth with no end in sight or do you think that we should make every effort to at least stabilise the population if not progressively reduce it?

Actually this is not off-topic at all. It is intimately linked to climate change.

<< What's your basis for saying that skeptics and denialists just sit back and say she'll be right mate about any other issues. >>

Amicus, what other great global issues are skeptics and denialists into?

Sorry to answer your question with a question, but I can't see that they'd be into any of them, by and large.

<< You just "assume" that all skeptics are naturally adverse to anything you disagree with >>

Well, I do assume that skeptics, by and large, with maybe a few exceptions, are just the sort of people that are well and truly on the wrong side of the fence, especially concerning never-ending economic growth and the promotion of never-ending population growth to prop it up.

Do you really think I'm too far wrong here Amicus?

Thank you for your comments
1. As I pointed out infra -red absorption bears a logarithmic relationship to CO2 concentration therefore by reference to the log curve an increment in concentration from say 0 to 100 ppm will have a much greater effect then say an increase from 300 to 400 ppm. Of course the curve increase to “infinity” but the gradient is smaller and smaller approaching zero at the “limit.”

2. You ask me about population growth. Well some 40years ago Paul Erlich published his book on population. Population was going to explode, yet we are still here, enjoying for the most part an improved standard of living.

3. Suppose you say, what if the population goes up by another increment? I can only state that by nature I am an optimist. I have every confidence that my grandchildren are bright enough to solve problems as they arise and on their merits. This undoubtedly will include the general adoption of technologies such as Nuclear Electricity Generation and the application of Genetic Engineering to agriculture and so on.

4. I agree with you on one point. I will not live long enough to know if my optimism will overcome your pessimism.

ouch, ludwig, what next?

skeptics and deniers are heretics?

burn them at the stake?

your religion is showing

now you are demonising people who do not believe what you do (or you think they do not believe as you do, just as bad eh? condemned by their implied actions? If you're not a believer, then what else are you not believing? probably buy vegetables from the supermarket! Car drivers, possibly and oh horrors they might even use air travel!)

mate, you need to stop and have a good think about where you're going with this.

hey, maybe you could make a video, blowing up non believers, children even .. oh wait

These creatures who believe in global warming, CO2 is bad and its child climate change, must all work for the government ensconced in reverse cycle air conditioning, to hold on to their bulldust so firmly, otherwise they must think their excreta doesn’t stink. But then ignorance is bliss as their next meeting is a repetition of the last and who cares as the public service go round and round and do not care what happens as long as their pay and pension are permanently guaranteed by guess who? The private sector and its enterprise, which is a word and workforce these bigbrothers always despise and hold in contempt as they think they are exempt, what hypocrisy and nonsensical mischief to suit the masters of the universe these greedy few. But then, I would consider some of these bloggers supporting this rubbish are only here to gain brownie points to give a leg up to a relative or favourite mate, and the complimentary dish of egg salad and cold chips with relish.