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Environmental groups should admit mistakes : Comments
By Max Rheese, published 8/11/2010Environmental issues lose credibility when dogma perseveres in the face of facts.
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Economics -
“1. the branch of knowledge concerned with the production, consumption, and transfer of wealth”
“2. the condition of a region or group as regards material prosperity:he is responsible for the island's modest economics”
Logic -... “the systematic use of symbolic and mathematical techniques to determine the forms of valid deductive argument...”
Noble - “having or showing fine personal qualities or high moral principles:the promotion of human rights was a noble aspiration”
A lioness will protect her cubs -up to the point where her own life is threatened. This is logical; she can always have more cubs. Abandoning her cubs to save herself is not Noble.
It really doesn't matter whether 'they' teach logic, Riz; some people just don't get it.
Riz:
“Firstly, this is a mathematical expression.”
Riz:
“Even as a mathematical expression it doesn't make sense.”
Ergo, it is not in fact a mathematical expression. It is an exercise in logic.
An apple, minus an orange, is still an apple. (a-b=a)
Oil, burnt for energy, is no longer oil. (a-b=0)
A wave, -if the energy is extracted at the 'crash'- is still a wave (until it dies a 'natural death'). And there will always be more waves.
Riz:
“Is completely beside the point. The point is that fossil fuels are 'cheaper'”.
No Riz, they aren't. And logically, they can never be.
If a group of people decide to go on a trip worth $100.00 each, and decide to put down a $75.00 deposit in advance so they only pay $25.00 on the day, they haven't saved $75.00
We don't have to spent more than $44 billion to protect waves. We don't have to spend the very best part of a trillion dollars on the military conquest of the wind (before we even build a windmill).
Using a valuable resource to depletion can never LOGICALLY be cheaper than using a irreducible resource.
Logic. Why don't some people get it, no matter how they are taught?