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The Jewish oath of loyalty is neither immoral nor discriminatory : Comments

By Daniel Meyerowitz-Katz, published 1/11/2010

It is not unusual for states to be constitutionally associated with the history, culture and symbols of a particular ethnicity.

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The difference here is that they are not new citizens, they are people who the Jewish nation are trying to force off their own land.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 10:20:58 AM
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Dear Mac :)

You said:

a) whether or not such a declaration is compatible with liberal secular democracy

b) Your appeal to Judeo-Christian religious traditions as support for your argument is meaningless to an infidel like me.

Valid points mate... but here's the thing.

@ a) "liberal democracy" is one of a number of political viewpoints.

@ b) You are not an Israeli :) and they probably care as much about your opinion as you do about mine.

But on the issue of 'religious traditions'... a minor correction.

-In Israel's case it is not the Judao-'Christian' tradition but the Jewish only.

They (Jews) would not try to justify the occupation of the land on Christian principles , because theologically speaking (being a bit pedantic) there is no longer (for the Christian) such a thing as an 'Israelite/Jew' for... (Gal 3:28 28) "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

So the New Testament does not really teach the theological entitlement to the land as the Jewish traditions do. We (Christians)do see some kind of providential hand at work in the restoration of the Nation...and this is suggestive of the last days, but I'm not about to sell up and move to the nearest mountain top in eager anticipation of the Lords return. (He can grab me where I am quite well thanx)

Religious Jews are still living in the Old Testament.. awaiting the Messiah. As such the concept of "The Land" is absolutely central to their mindset. Just keep your eyes open for the restored TEMPLE.. "coming soon" maybe :) If that happens..I strongly recommend an urgent re-think of your infidel status. Though as you would realize there is a standing invitation to come to Christ anytime...but such an event (Temple_Restoration) would/should.. rather focus the mind.

If the Temple IS restored... a series of events will quickly unfold.. and one of them is quite probably an EU/Nato (?)Islamic invasion which will be (wait....)SUCCESSFUL....then... more events leading to Christs return.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 4:06:31 PM
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No, they are new citizens. That's what the oath is for - anyone becoming a citizen of Israel.
Posted by NQD, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 4:17:48 PM
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They will have to build a new temple after the Iranians drop a big Abomb on Jerusalem. More power to their elbow.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 4:35:19 PM
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keep up the good work mate, Israel is our only friend in the middle east. While they are strong the muslim people will be kept in check
Posted by peter piper, Thursday, 4 November 2010 1:54:25 PM
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