"Give me the real story from real scientist at real institutions"

Ahh that would warm the hearts of so many writing grant applications right now

Give us more money so we can study the climate some more .. and come up with the same answers, with caveats, assumptions, warnings, gross exaggerations and some hysteria thrown in.

Maybe even "hide" some decline eh what!

Climate Scientists are no longer held in the regards of many other sciences, when they obviously collude, have conferences with no one invited who might have an alternative view .. it's not science anymore, it's just group think on the gravy train .. nes pa?

Arjay says:

"According to the AGW cult (sic),we should have an expodential rise in temps comensurate with rises in CO2."

Interesting Arjay, did you make that up yourself?
Alas, it would help if you got your facts right before sprouting your understanding of what climate sensitivity is.
Aside: as an exercise, it would be interesting to see how many real "climate change sceptics" will denounce your musing, we will see.

As to your "ad hominen invective" comment. Yes, it would be ad hominem if someone simply called you an "idiot". It would not be ad hominem if they called you an idiot and demonstrated why they came to that conclusion.

Oh, and rpg is it? Your comments suggest that "climate science" should not be researched or funded at all.

Clearly, these are the comments from someone who has made up their mind - not on any past or ongoing research, but on what they want the findings to be, what they want to believe.

rpg, scientists would get more funding and recognition for demonstrating that AGW is "crap" - you got it the wrong way round.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11150#187168

Taswegian, ALL of the "Climate Science" so far, has been produced by "Academics" working for "Research Institutes" that got their funding from, either Red/green/getup/labour/socialist Alliance governments, or tax deductible donations from "International Banksters" who want to make trillions from trading CDS, Carbon Default Swaps, CCO, Collateralized Carbon Obligations for shares in Storm Finance, Timbercorp & Great Southern Plantations.

Have you made the connection yet?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11150#187175

Ho Hum, spot on mate & who did this to the land of OZ?

Comrade Whitlam, Comrade Hawke, Comrade Keating from the Red/green/getup/labour/socialist Alliance plus their comrades at state, territory & local level in politics, bureaucrookracy, academia & journalism over the last 50 years.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11150#187185

merv09, too true.

Do you vote for REAL minor parties & independents?

The Nationals claim to support farmers but in coalition have almost never crossed the floor. The Red/greens claim to care for our environment but have a record of supporting its destruction.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11150#187199

Curmudgeon, why have none of these Loony, Lefties, or the LNP, for that matter, suggested offering discounts on corporate taxation to businesses, that actually DO something like replace their electric hot water system with gas or solar when the old one wears out.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11150#187200

Bonmot, Why do you want to steal from the poor & give to the Mega Rich International Banksters?

herewith, once more, American environmentalist Ernest Calabash's
4 laws of ecology:

1- ALL THINGS ARE INTERCONNECTED
2- EVERYTHING GOES SOMEWHERE
3- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH
4- NATURE BATS LAST.

This reminds me of the fairytale of "the EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES."

It behooves us to listen to climatologists like NASA's Schmidt and Richard Feynman to keep us rigorously honest. And if leaders think the outcome is more important than the process, that is inherently anti-democratic and must be challenged, but most of us just go along like the good sheep that we are. Because most of us are scientifically illiterate, and it's beginning to show - and wear thin.

Bonmot my words do not eminate from the brains of brow beaten AGW cult followers like yourself.I have an open mind on the subject unlike your religious zealots who are locked into monetary self interest.

bonmot "Your comments suggest that "climate science" should not be researched or funded at all."

No I didn't say that .. don't verbal me. Most researchers are not studying climate at all, they study the effects on various things - those in biology or anthropology for instance, all now can apply for funding to research, say, "the effects of climate change on lions in the Serengeti", sarcasm of course - but all these other areas of science are now jumping on the AGW gravy train, because to mention Climate Change is an easy way to get money .. have a look at how many papers now include researching the effects?

What do you think this skewing is doing to actual scientific research?

"Clearly, these are the comments from someone who has made up their mind ... on what they want the findings to be, what they want to believe."

I could easily say the same of you, couldn't I? It's easy to verbal people and attack them in this forum.

"rpg, scientists would get more funding and recognition for demonstrating that AGW is "crap" - you got it the wrong way round."

Rubbish, no climate scientist would apply for a grant to disprove the current "consensus", they know very well that the conductors and masters of the gravy train would never fund them. Look at the Climate gate emails, and how the senior climate scientists collude.

Yep, this article has put it very well, it's a cargo cult.

Your knee jerk defence of your religion is very cute though. (Your slip is showing .. as my dad used to say.)