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Asylum seekers and the law : Comments

By Rose Espinola, published 21/10/2010

The current Australian position towards asylum seekers, the law and Australia’s international obligations.

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Socratease,
You are wrong. MKK and his ilk call others racist simply because they have no valid or practical argument to support their stance in support of the 'illegals'

They simply refuse to see that the illegals are conning us and coming here by fraud, deceit and bribery.

We object to the illegals because we do not like being conned. The rate of acceptance as refugees that apply overseas is about 20% yet here they get 95% acceptance, because we cannot precisely identify their place of birth, because they destroy their papers.

They are gate crashers and are costing us millions. Genuine refugees come here with our governments approval.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 23 October 2010 5:53:30 PM
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*What the hell is an "economic migrant" anyway? Do you really think it is such a heinous thing to want to improve your circumstances, economically or in any other way?*

Err no Mikk. But screaming "racism" is hardly a logical reaction
by you. Perhaps you couldn't think of anything else to scream.

Fact is that we have an orderly system, economic migrants can apply.
Last time I checked, Australia had about 1 million applicants a year,
the Govt only takes a small % and its up to our orderly system for
them to decide, who they take.

But given your perspective of wanting anarchy and no orderly system,
more like a collapse of the present one that we have, I'm sure that
you would love to see our borders flooded in a complete free for all.

Most Australians happen to disagree with you. So you will have to
continue to sulk, pretty much alone.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 23 October 2010 8:37:33 PM
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Those unthinking Aussies who would call us racists and heartless should take out their calculators and do the maths:

Ready ?

Take a basic total population in Australia of a hypothetical 100 Aussie and other ethnic groups.
Before any Muslims arrive there is a 100% Aussie population + other non-muslim. Correct?
Then suppose we allow a small migration of muslims that in time begins to bite:-
95% Aussie + other ethnic groups
5% are Muslim
Aussie birth rate is about 2 per family ... = now 190
Muslims have an average from 5 to 6 per family = now 25 to 30 approx

Next year the Aussie share of population is 190...right?

the Aussie 190 x 2 per family = now 380
Muslim population 30 x 5 = 150 which is 49% of Australia in such a short time.

Isnt this logic quite clear to everyone reading this post?

This is what is happening at an alarming rate in Europe especially Belgium andHolland and UK. How long will this peaceful occupation eventually make Europe a Muslim conttinent ?
Where the population is most noticeable the demand growws that by applying the democratic principal of one man one vote the power shifts irrevocably to Islamisation. And there is now NO ONE to appeal to against the permament nature of this OCCUPATION BY STEALTH !! It has been all very peaceful with not only the consent of the indigenous population by by their contrivance and misplaced sense of generosity. This is what the bleeding heart industry are actively assisting in, and I hate every one of them for it.

In Australia it is not too late, thank God to put an end to it. Dont expect Gillard and CO to lead off on it. She is doing her damnedest to slyly speed up the process.

socratease
Posted by socratease, Saturday, 23 October 2010 9:13:59 PM
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Calm down a bit, mikk.

Given that this was an article about 'Asylum seekers and the law', I thought it quite pertinent to point out where it appears that boat arrivals may be circumventing the law.

Hardly racist, is it? Unless, of course, 'racist' is simply shorthad for 'someone who disagrees with me, and I don't like it'; somewhat interchangeable with 'fascist' or 'nazi'.

Feel free to use all three until such time as you can construct a cogent argument, but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.
Posted by Clownfish, Saturday, 23 October 2010 11:22:12 PM
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The convention on refugees covers people fleeing from persecution, not those simply seeking a better life, and gives the right to nations to exclude economic refugees, and those with a criminal past.

Further more it does not specify how this is determined, and gives the UN (specifically the UNHCR) no authority to determine this status. Considering that the UNHCR has neither the resources nor inclination to complete a thorough back ground check, documentation from the UNHCR certifying refugee status is barely worth the paper it is printed on.

Even when refugee status is confirmed, the requirement is that they are given refuge for the period of potential persecution in their homeland. Permanent residence is not mentioned, and should only be granted if the reason for persecution is unlikely to abate.

Julia Gillard has no desire to create a rift with her new Green allies, and is perfectly happy to string out the pretense of trying to establish an off shore processing center.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 11:45:44 AM
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