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Marxism Destroyed the Dialectic : Comments

By Gilbert Holmes, published 27/9/2010

Marx poisoned modern political philosophy because he didn't understand the dialectic

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Hi David, That was actually a quote that I lifted from one of Grok's posts. I quoted him then responded.

My observation that Peter Hume and Yabby (who of the various contributors here I would classify as more right wing) are not using dialectical arguments seems to me to agree with the basic premise of the article from which this discussion ensued: That marxism has monopolized the dialectic, which is actually a much bigger and more beautiful concept than Marx or friends realized.
Posted by GilbertHolmes, Friday, 8 October 2010 11:41:12 PM
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Dear Gilbert,

I try to avoid the terms, left and right, altogether. They are too often used a means of name calling. The ur leftists were the rich French bourgeoisie who sat on the left of the speaker in parlement.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 9 October 2010 6:06:08 AM
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GH: <My observation that Peter Hume and Yabby (who of the various contributors here I would classify as more right wing) are not using dialectical arguments seems to me to agree with the basic premise of the article from which this discussion ensued: That marxism has monopolized the dialectic, which is actually a much bigger and more beautiful concept than Marx or friends realized.>

Dear GH,
so far you've said nothing to indicate you have the faintest idea what "the dialectic", as you call it, is. You've just found a shiny little something you like to equate childishly with yin yang. And yet you have the nerve to pretend to understand Hegel! And to disparage the monumental thought of Karl Marx and others who followed after him!

The "right wing" ought to enlist you as an ally, for you're no friend to the left with your heedless surmise and puerile prognostications.
Unless you care to show us some depth of understanding, I see you as a rather ordinary figure skater.
Posted by Squeers, Saturday, 9 October 2010 6:51:27 AM
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Dear Yabby,

Notwithstanding your superior "wisdom" and my "bias"- the second part of you link appears, for the most part, to support my position - especially in relation to the Narmada River development.
This (my last) link is even more to the point.

http://sanhati.com/excerpted/2698/
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 9 October 2010 10:34:59 AM
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Gilbert, it seems to me that you and Grok tend to take what
Marx claimed about human behaviour, far too seriously.

Perhaps you want to update yourself by 100 years or so.

On this very weekend, they have been screening Charlie
Rose's "Brain Series" episode 11, which is about how
human brains make decisions.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/collection/10702

Its the latest neuroscience.

Its on Bloomberg tv, or you can read the transcripts
online, if you wish.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 9 October 2010 10:49:32 AM
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Hi Squeers,

Marx himself either did not know or ascribed little significance to the fact, but Hegel was certainly aware that the roots of the dialectic lie predominantly in the concept of yin/yang polarity.
Posted by GilbertHolmes, Saturday, 9 October 2010 5:16:57 PM
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