-- We saw how some –after gaining sanctuary – embraced the causes/groups that they were supposedly running from ---which saw them returning to wage war overseas –or worse, seeking to wage war in OZ (or the UK, Spain or the US!)
-- We saw how MANY, perhaps MOST, returned to their former homelands on VFR,
-- We are seeing at the present moment the comical situation where while the UN has deemed it sufficiently safe to be repatriating refugees from India back to Sri Lanka, our uber-humane advocates in OZ, are still crying open the doors to them!
--We are also seeing at this very moment in the NT that these – potential good citizen material --exploit every legal loop hole to the max, but when things don’t go the way they want, riot, break facilities & fittings, blow up boats endangering all –and, if finally forced to go home , simply return and return and return again till some bureaucrat finds it easier to give them entry.

But of course, I don’t expect Osmand saw any of this –He was too busy learning his lines!

Elysium seeker advocacy, is not the noble cause it is made out to be. It panders to one of the most devious, dirty scams around ---but it does have a strong multiplier affect.
--The people smugglers get a wad of money.
-- The Elysium seekers get upgraded from a one star to five star life style –truly they have found Elysium!
--The advocates get five minutes of the warm-and-fuzzies , & a cushy as a researcher for a union or welfare group.

The only real losers are the Australian public –who get saddled with the bill ,then –double whammy!—have to endure a life time of cultural sensitive provisions that seeks to ensure the new comers get better than equal opportunity.

Nothing in Horus' comment above is new, it’s just a re-hash of the tired old bigoted drivel that we’ve heard (and debunked) a thousand times before.

Yawn.

Oh dear! (:>(

What about my post then CJ? Anything there worth commenting on?

Hi Ludwig - while you're no bigot, when it comes to asylum seekers I think you're pretty obtuse, albeit for other reasons. We've been through this a zillion times, and we disagree.

I've no desire to go the rounds with you yet again about 'boat people'. In the scheme of things, they're a non-issue in population terms, and I think that we should afford all legitimate refugees who get here asylum. Further, abolish the so-called 'skilled' migration scheme and boost offshore processing. Get rid of the baby bonus. Bla bla.

Meantime, behave like decent, compassionate humans. There's really no point or future if we don't. Suffice to say that I find it quite obscene and sad that the plight of desperate people is such a political football in Australia.

On the other hand, when our old friend Horus posts yet another bigoted diatribe, I'm occasionally compelled to lampoon him, if nothing else. I suspect that he enjoys the attention ;)

Yes Ludwig...in the world CJ inhabits, you are a bigoted racist :)

I'm so glad I live in the real world where concern over people exploiting our generosity is seen as fairmindedness and responsible stewardship of that freedom.

The point CJ has yet to learn is that "chucking stuff out there" and hoping some of it will stick is just wasted time with those of us who have clear thinking on such issues.

He might think concerns about country shoppers have been debunked..but it's only in that narrow bigoted racist anti Australian world 'he' lives in.

Boazy

What part of

"Hi Ludwig - while you're no bigot, when it comes to asylum seekers I think you're pretty obtuse, albeit for other reasons. We've been through this a zillion times, and we disagree."

Did you not read?

At no point did CJM claim that Ludwig "Yes Ludwig...in the world CJ inhabits, you are a bigoted racist :)"

Man, you are so steeped in Christian doublethink, you wouldn't know the truth even if it took a dump on you, which, looking at the preceding posts from Ludwig and CJM I believe it has - a big smelly one.

And don't try to claim you wuz only "jokin'" - we all know you too well for that.

Asylum seekers are not a crisis issue, despite the rhetoric from both major parties. They would not even cost as much as they have been were we to assess their claims onshore as opposed to the expense of running off-shore detention centres.

Now go take a long hot shower - you're a bit on the nose, mate.