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Knowledge and truth - it's a Catch-22 : Comments

By Mark Christensen, published 30/8/2010

Chris Hitchens, in his recently published memoir 'Hitch-22', craves a noble cause.

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Ho Hum

Being time poor - could you please explain your point and at least provide a paragraph or two from your many web-links. I might then have some understanding of where you are coming from.
Posted by Johnny Rotten, Monday, 30 August 2010 11:20:01 AM
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Mark, you say that “the so-called laws of physics do not hold true in the sub atomic realm. The basic building blocks of reality, at least when they’re not being observed, are best described as random wave functions.”

If you examine that level you find particles arising and passing away at great speed (10 power 22 as measured by Louis Alvarez). Rather than being random, cause and effect applies – each arising and passing is a condition for the next arising and passing. Examine this process within your own mind and body and you'll find no essence, no self, no enduring entity to cling to. Descartes observed within himself the thinking process, the flow of the mind integrated with the flow of the body. Unfortunately, he concluded “I think therefore I am,” rather than “Thinking is.”

Philosophy and rational thought can only take you so far, they are functions of that small part of the mind known in the West as “conscious,” which ignore the far larger and more important part of the mind, the so-called “unconscious,” which is in fact always aware.

To observe reality as it is, directly, we have to access this part of the mind and train our mind to observe with detachment, without reaction. Through this, we can understand the nature of existence, which is impermanent and egoless, a substance-less flow. Only through this understanding can we come out of the ignorance and delusion which normally drive us, which cause the problems and suffering which many have sought to address through religion, philosophy, hedonsim, opiates etc as the case may be.

You don't need a god to do this, you don't even need a view on whether or not there is a god, you just need the volition to engage in deep self-observation without pre-conceptions.
Posted by Faustino, Monday, 30 August 2010 1:21:50 PM
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[Deleted for irrelevance].
Posted by Firesnake, Monday, 30 August 2010 4:16:50 PM
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Thanks, Pericles. The best I can do in response is to record my own reaction to this piece of claptrap:

"Huh?"
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 30 August 2010 5:02:45 PM
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Two natural laws have removed any doubt about the existance of God for me. Light displaces darkness not vice verca. Hot gives of heat to become cold. Those two laws tell me that the bible is truth. Without the key you will never unlock the door. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, so what you hope for is what your faith is in. Just because you believe something does not make it true.
Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 5:53:20 AM
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"Light displaces darkness not vice verca. Hot gives of heat to become cold. Those two laws tell me that the bible is truth."

But how do you account for the fact that those two phenomena don't convince anyone else? In other words, what's special about you? Or are all the others lying? To say "A proves B to me" when it doesn't prove B to anyone else may be just a way of showing your bias.
Posted by Jon J, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 7:23:33 AM
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