Are you sure, sonofgloin?

>>By control of our own destiny I was referring to our debt. When we are in debt the lender calls the shots<<

To whom are we in debt?

And in what manner are the lenders able to "call the shots"?

I'd be genuinely interested in your response, as I have heard this mantra so many times, it must be important.

So do let me know before I have to go to the ballot box, please.

It could make all the difference.

Pericles :>> To whom are we in debt?<<

P, my money is the Chinese for obvious reasons, but the Rudd/Gillard govt is not disclosing.

>> And in what manner are the lenders able to "call the shots"?
I'd be genuinely interested in your response, as I have heard this mantra so many times, it must be important.<<

Our largest export partner is China, and you can be assured even without disclosure that the only money available over the past two years is Chinese, and we borrowed from them. Given you have no been able to reconcile these facts then an explanation of the pressure for economic or political gain that comes from that scenario would be wasted on you. Mantra indeed, a displaying of the facts and a possible outcome is what I described.

>> So do let me know before I have to go to the ballot box, please.
It could make all the difference.<<

Given this last line I have to inform you I will not have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Over a billion people in China would love to have the opportunity to vote. Here in Australia some silly people waste their vote.

Such people should be stopped from voting until they can prove that they can vote responsibly and intelligently.

We should be able to register a valid vote that records that no candidate is acceptable. A blank/informal vote does not achieve this.Leslie