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Zero Carbon Australia plan - a reality check : Comments

By Martin Nicholson, published 16/8/2010

Renewable energy advocates, and the Greens, would have us give up all domestic plane travel, make half our journeys by electric train and forget the two car family ...

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I look forward to the nuclear zealots putting forward their own detailed and costed Zero Carbon plan - when is it coming out? It seems all you can do is criticise from the sidelines without doing any actual work.

In particular I am eager to see where the nuclear power stations will be located. The ZCA2020 plan has the locations of the solar and wind sites.
Posted by Trudes, Monday, 16 August 2010 12:20:23 PM
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trudes "I look forward to the nuclear zealots putting forward their own detailed and costed Zero Carbon plan" .. right after we get a detailed and costed zero carbon plan from the anti-nucelar zealots that will meet base load requirements - put up or shut up.

"In particular I am eager to see where the nuclear power stations will be located.", that's great trudes, we all look forward to the nuclear plants,and the existing sites of coal fired stations is an obvious choice for a bunch of them.

Also, we'll need a nuc plant right beside every desal plant, so sorely needed now because the eco types who can't see further than their own shadow, have made us build them since we can't build dams.

We could possibly find where all the anti dams folks are and build desal and nuc plants there, surely you wouldn't have a problem with that, after all "no dams!"

So water supply has been made risky in Australia, hence we will need lots of nuc power stations to give us surety in supply, for when the population grows yet bigger.

We didn't go nuclear because all the caldicotting and eco/green objections, so we kept building coal power stations, now when it turns out you were wrong, and the coal fired stations are possibly worse than nukes for the climate, how about taking it on the chin for the country? We put it where the majority of anti nuke zealots live?

Do you think that's in line with social justice? Most of us don't want to live your dream, it's our nightmare - no electricity.

it's easy to criticise isn't it - but do you and your mates have any solutions, apart from chanting renewable/sustainable and then hope someone else solves it?

Nuclear is available .. it works, if the likes of caldicott and her ilk had not worked against it, GenIV or even Gen V/VI reactors could have been a reality - just modern day luddites.
Posted by Amicus, Monday, 16 August 2010 12:55:42 PM
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mark duffett - well said,thanks for those links, love your work!

Isn't it interesting so many eco types all chant the same little homilies, like they've all been to the same camp and been educated, their knowledge is all so biased one way.
Posted by Amicus, Monday, 16 August 2010 12:59:22 PM
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I have been told that if Australias carbon production was calculated on the basis of land mass,

Australias carbon production would be bugger all.
Posted by JamesH, Monday, 16 August 2010 1:15:13 PM
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yes James, but that's not the preferred method of self flagellation of Australia's AGW astrologers. (where everything that happens, is as predicted by the IPCC, whoever .. but..everything, a storm here, a temperature there, why even that glacier, or a polar bear .. it's all been predicted you know .. it must be the CO2! Gasp!)

It's preferred to find the best (worst?) way to look at things so as to super size the exaggeration and doom saying.
Posted by Amicus, Monday, 16 August 2010 1:47:26 PM
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The ZCA plan is a crock which the most cursory reading will reveal.The 2020 timeline sets the scene for the usual cavort with the fairies at the bottom of the garden.

Renewables have a place but it is not in the supply of base load power.Nuclear can do this.It is a proven technology and an improving technology.In fact,the only technology which can consign the coal industry to history relatively quickly and at a reasonable cost.
Posted by Manorina, Monday, 16 August 2010 2:40:17 PM
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