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Why Australia needs a renewed culture of natural marriage : Comments

By Allan Carlson, published 13/8/2010

For the first time in human history, natural marriage has to justify itself in democratic countries before the court of public opinion.

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Briar Rose says:

//What is it with these people? Like the Christians, it's their way or the highway. What is their problem with difference? Why are they so threatened by any lifestyle other than their own//

You could have mentioned Muslims there too.. except that they HANG gays rather than just disapproving of their behavior.

The issue is this:

"It's OUR way".... where "our" is any group, Christian, Muslim, atheist or whatever.. who democratically assert "NO" to gay marriage.

Or the Highway... as in... if you have the votes you get the outcome you want.

Forgive us for being rather passionate about doing all we can to stop such abhorrent permissiveness becoming legally allowed in this society of which we happen to have an equal part in.

It 'is' our business because we live here. How we live 'is' your business because you do too.

The difference is, our 'way' and our values have history and theology on their side. The queer way has little but madi gras and debauched public displays of gratuitious public sex to commend it.

If you folks cannot see that a man and a woman is what marrige is and should be about.. don't expect any sympathetic hearing from our mob.

Aside from marriage.. be and do what you like... no skin of our nose, but it might land you in a rather challenging medical predicament.
No amount of hysterical denial or rampaging activism will change the fact that you will always be a small.. very small minority and last time I checked.. dogs don't like being wagged by their tails.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Saturday, 14 August 2010 7:09:01 PM
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What Foxy, Briar Rose and Johnny Rotten said!

Above all, it is simply not true that heterosexual couples' kids do better than homosexual couples.

I don't see the author's logic.

If children of heterosexual couples do better when these parents are married than if they are not married, wouldn't it then logically follow that kids of same-sex couples would also do better if married?

Indeed, studies have indicated in countries where it is legal for same-sex couples to adopt children, that these children fare very well; either as well as children of heterosexual parents or even better!

This is an interesting article also:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html

Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers

"The authors found that children raised by lesbian mothers — whether the mother was partnered or single — scored very similarly to children raised by heterosexual parents on measures of development and social behavior. These findings were expected, the authors said; however, they were surprised to discover that children in lesbian homes scored higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and aggression."

Something to think about, Allan!
Posted by Celivia, Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:50:56 PM
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The author and AGiR et al also seem to forget about the high divorce rates. If marriage is so perfect, then why is this the case?
Never mind how the kids of divorced parents are doing!

Oh and it would be greater than great if Allan could show us statistics that indicate that divorce rates are significantly lower among conservative Christians, who are, after all, the loudest defenders of marriage, than among, let's say, atheists.

Lol!
Posted by Celivia, Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:20:29 AM
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ALGOREisRICH, you people are in the minority on gay marriage - 60% of Australians believe same sex couples should be able to marry. That's 60%.

And it's always useful when thinking about history to consider who's actually written it, and what they've left out and why.

Nothing bad is going to happen to you if gays get married. Bad things might happen in other circumstances, but married gays won't hurt you.
Posted by briar rose, Sunday, 15 August 2010 7:19:46 AM
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Forgot to mention as well, ALGORE, that for those of us who support gay marriage, it isn't our way or the highway. Nobody in this group is going to MAKE gays marry. But your group MAKES them not marry. Your group says unless you are like us you can't have what we have. Our group says, in a decent society everybody is entitled to the same civil right as everybody else.
So, which group is more interested in love, and which group is more interested in controlling love?
Posted by briar rose, Sunday, 15 August 2010 7:28:56 AM
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Is that you Boaz?

Still telling everyone else how to live - I remember when you bragged about belting your teenage daughter for staying out late. Yeah, what the kiddies need are more religious control freaks. Not.

When have you ever been threatened by gays or lezzos?

Nice link there Celivia, but you think Boazy is going to read it? You can lead a fundy to water but you can't make him think.

Briar Rose is correct the majority of Australians have no objections to gay marriage - which makes YOU the tail mate. ROFL. A legend in his own mind.

Has anyone ever considered how bloody boring fundy sex must be? Now THAT's unnatural.
Posted by Johnny Rotten, Sunday, 15 August 2010 9:56:27 AM
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