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Zero Carbon Australia plan sets the bar : Comments

By Bob Brown, published 12/8/2010

The challenge posed by the climate crisis is enormous and will require every bit of resourcefulness and ingenuity we can muster.

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Please can some kind person define the term “climate crisis?”
It appears from Dr. Brown’s essay that this undefined something is the greatest threat on earth. No evidence is advanced to support the thesis of the coming supposed catastrophe.
Likewise it is by no means clear to me how replacement of “polluting coal power” by so called renewables will avert an unspecified “climate crisis.”
By the way has the good Senator thought about replacing his “polluting coal power” with nuclear power?
After all we know from the Switkowski report that nuclear generation has an unequalled record in respect to health and safety. Further carbon dioxide emission does not occur in the generation of nuclear electricity
Posted by anti-green, Thursday, 12 August 2010 2:19:04 PM
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Hi Ozandy,

"The "Adjustment" is called homogenisation of data and it is necessary to account for instrument degradation and changes to the areas surrounding stations. All station data needs "adjustment" to make the data usable for forecasting and longer term climate monitoring. The science has *not* been impacted by homogeneity adjustments. If it were there would be outrage by climate scientists at such shoddy work."

Then perhaps you can explain how a discontinuous non-overlapping temperature record from three separate sites in Nepal was 'homogenised' into a single record showing a 9-degree-per-century rise in temperature?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/11/more-gunsmoke-this-time-in-nepal/#more-23293

I'm interested to see the maths you use for that.

And as for 'The Russians are coming!' didn't we sort that out in another thread? No answer from you there that I could see..
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 12 August 2010 2:36:34 PM
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We are currently using on a global scale approximately 13,670 000 cubic metres of oil and 17,000 000 tons of coal every single day.

To put this in perspective, the volume of this is (assuming that 1 ton of coal is 1 cubic metre) 1 km x 1 km 100 hectares) to a depth of 30.67 metres or a ten storey building.

Just thought you'd like to know
Posted by GilbertHolmes, Thursday, 12 August 2010 3:05:22 PM
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The bean-counting bureaucrat strikes again!
Posted by GilbertHolmes, Thursday, 12 August 2010 3:08:10 PM
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Hasbeen,

Is it only subsidised energy generation that gets the chop in a free country in your world-view? Or should we be cutting out other subsidised industries too.

Let's start with mining, automotive, farming, private health, private education I could go on...

But your argument only applies to "energy generation" doesn't it. So I assume you think we should shut down coal power plants then too, as they are subsidised too.

So, really, what is it you are saying?
Posted by TrashcanMan, Thursday, 12 August 2010 5:35:45 PM
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Congratulations Bob for promoting the Zero Carbon Australia plan. You are quite correct that this plan sets the bar for governments and climate campaigners.

There is absolutely no excuse for the WA government's plan to bring on line three new coal-fired power stations and resurrect another two old ones. We need to be moving in the direction of 100% renewable energy as the ZCA plan demonstrates is possible.

I look forward to the Greens adopting as policy the plan for 100% renewable energy in Australia by 2020.

Alex Bainbridge
Socialist Alliance candidate for Perth
Posted by AlexBainbridge, Thursday, 12 August 2010 6:44:18 PM
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