Rhian and Stern,
MY view is that it makes little difference where we process the illegals. What stopped the boats is the introduction of TPVs instead of permanent residency and that is what is needed now.

However as the boats are still coming even though this government has suspended processing, it is obvious that the illegals do not believe this government. Only a change of government will now stop the boats.

To stop them coming we have to deny them what they seek.

this is for all those who feel sorry for the refuges and are all for them seeking home in Australia, including those whom do not have any sort of identification with them. OK NOW -
Why do you help them. No go just voicing your opinion on the post forum. Why do you sponsor them.

Sonya "this is for all those who feel sorry for the refuges and are all for them seeking home in Australia, including those whom do not have any sort of identification with them. OK NOW -
Why do you help them. No go just voicing your opinion on the post forum. Why do you sponsor them"

Because Sonya, they are just ordinary people the same as the rest of us who haven't chosen to become refugees. Fate if you like it, has placed them in a terrible position - they have done nothing special to become refugees. But for the good luck of being born with a stable government, it could be you or me. Over whelmingly the people that have come here via boat, have been shown to be fleeing persecution. I'm not in a position unfortunately to sponser asylum seekers so shouldn't be pounced on for not putting my money where my mouth is. I can just lend other sorts of support where I can.

Commenting on this forum about refugees is like commenting on climate change it's only for the robust so I'll only do it once, but I think it's probably a fair guess that many of the posters here that call asylum seekers wrongly 'illegals' etc. would praise someone who either takes themselves or their families out of terrrible harm's way from violent people. It's only when they seek to come here and ask our compassion that they raise these people's ire.

TBC

The lack of documentation is not really uncommon. In our society we of course issue birth certificates etc. That's not the case necessarily in other places. I know people who have come here to live who we have to guess at a age for. The kid's naturally get in quickly as kids do on the idea of having a birthday. Even for people who have ID, they may have had to hit the road in a emergency situation where returning home (if it's still there) to get identification would result in their death.

Anyway this is brilliant. Poor Tony Abbott - mugged by politeness! http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/abbotts-trip-to-fruit-shop-goes-pearshaped-20100720-10iux.html Would he really tow these people away?

Sonya,
Do not be deceived by J L Deland and his/her ilk.

The illegal arrivals are con artists and shonksters gate crashing our country.

A few simple things you need to consider.

They fly to Malaysia, for which they need documentation, before engaging a smuggler to take them firstly to Indonesia and then to Aus.

They destroy their documentation enroute to Aus simply so our officials cannot verify their identity and so cannot send them home.

If they were genuine refugees they would go to the front door with their identities intact and seek asylum.

They are willing to pay smugglers much more than the air fare to Aus for a very risky trip.

I refer to them as 'illegals' because that is what they are. It is against the law to enter Aus without a valid visa. That is the reason we can put them in detention. We do not put people in detention with valid visas. The advocate for these con artists want to paint them as poor unfortunates, that is why they refer to them with 'nicer' sounding terms.

Lets talk about the underdog! Now that all depends as to what or who you call 'the under dog'. It is all well and good making a huge sound and dance about the assalyum/refuges fleeing their country to escape 'persecution' - they travel in such extreme dangerous conditions one could not even imagine it. And the thing I find most unbelievable and totally unexceptionable is that those people not only risk their lives, is that, they risk their children's life. I say that it is fair and reasonable to state that if those people are willing to risk there children's live, they can not have any morals at all.

And I may also say again..... If you are all for helping them, put your money where you mouth is and sponsor them..take them into your home and give them shelter, feed them and cloth them....OK now if your can not help them it may be better to just opt out, look after your own families and see that they are well care for. thank-you. ps. Also I may ask anyone:- Would you risk your life and your children's life and do what those people have done? Yes i thought so...no you wouldn't.