Australia is a secular state. Communist, democratic ... label it as you please. There is no official religion of Australia. If one believes there is a direct place for God in the state, then does one believe that citizens are subject to God's justice? Is there not a role for a system of human justice amongst theists ... are 'laws' invalid because they do not come from God, but from Acts of parliaments and the courts? There are inconsistent theological beliefs amongst theist Australians. How then can a society ensure common values, beliefs and assumptions about life? Valid law.

Posted by AGS1, Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:50:33 PM
" ... Australia is a secular state. ... "

I'm sure I've seen the politicians saying "Lordy's Prayer" before parliament, have I not? Accordingly, can we really be termed a secular state given that this the case?

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Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Saturday, 10 July 2010 10:08:43 PM
" ... Jesus replied, "And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them." ... "

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Tags with *Boazy*

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I have a friend who is a wiggie. A partner in a supposedly "reputable" and long established firm, and one with more than 1 public accolade to its credit.

However, the price of his employ with this particular group of parasites, is that the terms of his firms insurance policy, in conjunction with his employment contract are such that, he is STRICTLY PROHIBITED from doing pro bono in good conscience of his own volition, whether it be for family, friend or otherwise.

[Leans over and pukes on the crown]

He is charged out at $AU500 per hour and his firm only accepts clients who will bring in a minimum of $AU25,000 per year in fees. Indeed "Remorseless Mercantilisation," stated 1 High Court Judge.

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And regarding the Oz Con, another High Court Judge notes something to the following effect:

" ... Appeals to *Lizzie Winza* in Council remain enshrined. ... "

[S74 Appeal to *Lizzie Winza* in Council]

But as we know, notwithstanding provisions in the Oz Con as to the only mechanism by which said document can be changed,

[ ... 128 Mode of altering the Constitution
This Constitution shall not be altered except in the following manner: ...]

the reality is that the parliament of the pom always retained the power to alter the Oz Con pre, up to and including the "Australia Act," and now appeals to *Lizzie* have been abolished.

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What a piece of TOILET PAPER!

Hi 5 -> Dreamy

AGS1 "Is there not a role for a system of human justice amongst theists"

Well..being much more than a 'theist' myself.. in fact a conservative evangelical fundamentalist.... of course there is a role for 'human justice'

The Biblical framework is found in Romans 13:1-7 or so.

The Christian belief system does not deny or reject 'human law' as a principle..what it does reject is unjust law.

For example... a law implemented with the sole objective of protecting a financial interest and monopoly held by friends of the lawmaker.

Laws which demand our participation in the greed based territorial expansion of our nations area's of control.

MOst particularly..a law which would force us to embrace or comply with anything which is 'anti God'..such as worship of the Prime Minister..that kind of thing.

RULE OF MAN.....

While on that thought :)

"Welcome to Melbourne... a vibrant cosmopolitan city which provides for your every need. Here is St Pollos' temple.. inside we have friendly assistants who will give you the opportunity to express your religious fetish as you deem fit. We have both heterosexual and homosexual assistants.. feel free to make use of them in relieving your sexual tension as they are there to accomodate..
WE take pride in our civic mindedness in this area. If you are a visitor to our fair city, there is no charge for this service... for those who are local.. a small fee is required. For those so inclined, we even have dominatrix and bondage experiences on offer"

Now.. replace "Melbourne" with 'Ephesus' and you will understand what Paul wrote in his 2nd chapter of his letter to that Church.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2&version=NIV

"Human Law"...without the Anchor of God's guidance.. will simply take the line of least moral resistance and we would end up like Ephesus.
It was only the coming of the Kingdom of God which lifted the debauched Roman Empire OUT of this kind of thing....so there is value in a healthy dose of the Divine in our human thinking about 'law'.