http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10611#174795

Tatiana, agreed, about the betrayal, but you're wrong on one thing.

The Red/green/getup/labour coalition, achieved nothing, hence the fall, in the polls.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10611#174807

Ludwig, correct, about the mistakes & it being unannounced, official party policy, implemented, by all of them, including Gillard.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10611#174809

Leigh, correct, talk to EX Labour voters, top of their hate list is Fe"Man"Nazism.

If they think dropping a right/male leader for a Loony, Left, barren, unmarried woman, is saving them, they are in for a shock.

Many of the Ex Red/green/getup/labour coalition voters i talk to will be voting http://www.australiafirstparty.com.au/cms/ or http://www.dlp.org.au/ & preferencing the conservatives.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10611#174812

Cornflower, everybody has forgotten about Pauline Hanson. Please correct me if i am wrong, but she got 49%, 1st preference votes.

The only racists in OZ are the Loony, Left, who just hate white people.

Whatever you do, don't bring back the "White Australia" policy. We will then be deluged in educated, working & middle class whites, with trade & professional Qualifications.

Fleeing their "Multicultural" Nirvana's in North America, Britain, Europe, South Africa & New Zealand. Not just thousands either, Millions of them will be lining up to come to a safe place, free of ethnic turmoil.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10611#174820

ALGOREisRICH, spot on again, you have your finger on a lot of pulses mate, but i disagree about it being, about votes. You were correct earlier with this one on other threads.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236#

"Multiculturalism" is just another branch of "Political Correctness" & these "Religious Fundies" like "C J Morgan" etc, have been preaching this rubbish for so long now. They really have succeeded in brainwashing themselves completely. They genuinely believe it. So Sad.

Gillard for example is still waving the ETS, Economic, Treason, Scam flag. Suggesting she can convince us that Quadrupling, Energy costs. So that "Wall Street" can go back to business as usual with "Carbon Default Swaps" is a good idea?

Madness, that will wipe the Red/green/getup/labour coalition, off the face of the Earth shortly.

I propose giving the "Maoists" what they want, a real "Cultural Revolution". Starting with the Loony, Left, Humanities Academics.

I disagree, Yabby (surprise!). The RSPT was just the straw that broke the camel's back. While I personally support the tax, it was strategically suicidal for Rudd personally when the polls were already going south after the CPRS backdown. Some may recall that I predicted Rudd's imminent demise as PM some weeks ago here at OLO.

Formersnag: << I propose giving the "Maoists" what they want, a real "Cultural Revolution". Starting with the Loony, Left, Humanities Academics. >>

You're surreal, mate. Keep 'em coming :)

Agree Severin - Yabby just doesn't get it. ;)

The tax is not the problem it was how it was presented and leaving little room for discussion and negotiation. Rudd's style of tough talk put himself in a non-compromising position making it impossible for any future negotiations that would not be seen as another backdown after the ETS, cancellation of the insulation and green loan scheme etc.

Many people support the tax even if it means some compromise on the final figure or how it is linked in with corporate taxes.

There was much that came before the tax including failures in delivering the stimulus package and the Education Revolution. Rudd's own personal leadership style and failure to be inclusive of his team. Turnbull suffered the same fate for the same reason it was not just division over the ETS.

Rudd was the master of his own undoing despite the fact that I believe he really did care about many policies and one cannot deny his strong work ethic (perhaps too strong). He did not get the approach right in delivering on his promises and goals.

Whoopsie...I meant to say Agree CJ (not Severin). :)

The Guardian newspaper (uk) carried an article that was quite positive about the ruthlessness of Australian Labor in paying attention to what the electorate wanted.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/24/australia-labor-julia-gillard

Pelican

That's OK - I concur with everything you have said. Kevin has great integrity, however that is not enough to be a leader. One must be able to communicate and delegate to one's team, in this respect Rudd became a liability. The failure to collaborate was fatal.

Looking forward to seeing more negotiation and a sustainable future for Australia.