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They smashed unions, antitrust laws, got almost all regulation removed, polluted and exploited our environment, started wars, killed and maimed us with numerous toxic and dangerous products and totally destroyed the once cohesive and happy societies that we once had. Once they finish destroying welfare and privitising everything they will have destroyed it all and they will own us body and soul. You will have no choices and no future. Slave or soldier, peasant or pauper that will be your lot.

Capitalism is to blame for our distress and along with their partners The State and Religion they will happily return the world to slavery, feudalism, war, hatred and death as long as they get to keep all the cash and all the power. They havent got far to go.

Wake up people. Despite the capitalist's "theories" there is no reason why we should put up with this. There is nothing "natural" about this system of exploitation and greed. Competition might be a good way for the animal kingdom to survive but for us it is just barbaric and uncivilised. All of our most important advances have been a direct consequence of cooperation and it has been shown time and again cooperation beats competition every time. That most people have been brainwashed with capitalist propaganda to believe the opposite does not fill me with hope but there is change in the air and slowly people are realising the truth. Capitalism contains the seeds of its own destruction and the greed and waste and evil exploitation will slowly drive the backlash that will eventually destroy it. I will never submit and never stop fighting this disgusting system that pits people against each other and drives ALL of the problems that we face as a species.
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Excellent posts everyone, special thanks to John Jawrence Ward, a history lesson well worth repeating.

Mikk

>> Competition might be a good way for the animal kingdom to survive but for us it is just barbaric and uncivilised. <<

There is no competition between corporations. Competition can be healthy and lead to innovation, however the monopolization of industries such as mining, forestry, food production and so on, has lead to a lowest common denominator standard of quality and practices which, as you have said, pollutes and exhausts our eco-systems. Areas where we have made technological advances such as solar, wind and thermal power are constantly assaulted as 'inefficient' instead of being further researched and supported. Forests are still being cleared for raw material that can be sourced from alternatives such as papyrus, bamboo. The bulk of innovation has come from small business and government subsidised research and other cooperative joint ventures.

A significant exception is GM technology which has been co-opted by some of the biggest corporate cowboys, throwing their weight around our planet, corporations such as Monsanto. GM stood to be of incredible benefit, however with patents on gene technology owned by the corporate sector, we are unlikely to reach the full potential of this knowledge.

OBAMA'S BAN ON DRILLING...is the utmost in base amoral hypocrisy!

Protagorus.. do you know that Obama's mob LENT $2,000,000,000 to PETROBRAS the Brazilian oil company for OFF SHORE EXPLORATION ?

It seems Obama is just saying "Not in MYYYY backyard, but in Brazils..it's fine"

The Brazilian finds are at 14,000 feet.. BP were drilling off florida at 5000 feet.

Petrobras makes 15,000,000,000 profit a year.. why would Obama lend them a paultry 2 more ?

Maybe the fact that Obama's team and policy was chosen and decided by the "Centre for American Progress" which was founded by George Soros, who happens.. just happens.. to have his biggest single investment in...wait for it.. PETROBRAS!

Come on... get out of the kitchen and into the shed mate.. catch up with what is really going on out there.

“Protagorus.. do you know that Obama's mob LENT $2,000,000,000 to PETROBRAS the Brazilian oil company for OFF SHORE EXPLORATION ?”

Well yes I did read that Agoreisrich. I also read that Petrobras’ largest shareholder is the Brazilian government. Furthermore a ‘loan’ is repaid but did you know that ex-gaol bird and former Labor Premier, Brian Burke and his corporate criminal buddies cost the taxpayers of WA nearly $1,000,000,000? No, I thought not! Taxpayers did not get reimbursed and Burke remains a multi-multi millionaire.

And did you know that the Court Liberal government of WA ‘loaned’ a hazardous waste operator a large sum of money because he was breaching every environmental regulation in the book? No, he was not shut down or prosecuted and the hazardous waste plant literally blew up, allegedly the largest chemical fire in Australia’s history.

The haz waste operator kept the ‘loan’ and the underground hazardous plume has now invaded the Helena River, a major tributary to the Swan River where the river’s dolphin community is dying from pollution and in 2004; a mass fish death in the Swan River exceeded 300,000 mortalities.

Then there’s former WA Liberal Premier and ex gaol bird Ray O’Connor accepting bribes from corporate criminals – namely Alan Bond - another ex gaol bird who fleeced little old men and women of their life savings yet remains a mult-multi millionaire.

Robert Askin, Joe Bjelke Petersen – oh my…the list is endless but those who dream of faraway places………………………!

Next we have WA Liberal Premier and eco-vandal, Barnett, whose budget papers I'm told reveal that 99% of capital expenditure by the government’s energy utility will fund polluting fossil-fuel generation and less than 1% will be spent on renewable energy.

Mining companies receive even more handouts as part of the Barnett Government’s million dollar mining exploration incentives package but taxpayers will have to pick up the bill for the environmental carnage caused by mining as the government continues it’s policy to exempt miners from paying bonds to cover the cost of rehabilitation.

I think you speak with forked tongue Algoreisrich!

*Areas where we have made technological advances such as solar, wind and thermal power are constantly assaulted as 'inefficient' instead of being further researched and supported.*

Oh rubbish Severin. Do you know how much money that US venture capital
is throwing at this? It is absolutaly enormous. Even the best
Australian ideas head for California for funding, to take them
a step further. The fact remains however, that there are some systems
being tested, but we can't yet show that wind or solar will give
us what consumers want, with any reliability or reasonable cost.
If your electricity bill was to triple, you would be the first
to squeal.

*All of our most important advances have been a direct consequence of cooperation and it has been shown time and again cooperation beats competition every time*

Mikk, that is exactly why people cooperate to form corporations,
with hundreds of thousands of little people as members, all having
a share. R&D today is quite different to the days when Alexander
Graham Bell was doing his tinkering, technology is far more complex
and required billions. To build an Intel plant costs billions, you
are not going to achieve that kind of cooperation or finance
through small business.

Just look at the benefits to you, of Google competing with Murdoch,
competing with MS. You the consumer are winning all the way and
if you haven't noticed, then you are blind. Have you ever paid
Google a single cent? How many times have you used their search
engines?

You have suggested to better system then the one that we have,
we know what happens when a Castro or a Chevez take over, it is
disaster for the population.

Yabby
Castro,Chavez,Bush,Howard. Whats the difference?
I dont advocate replacing one lot of miscreant "leaders" with another lot. Get rid of them all and run things democratically. Real democracy not the demockery we have now.
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