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Why the oil spill isn't BP's fault : Comments

By Kris Sayce, published 18/6/2010

Because of a lack of private property rights there's no private owner putting pressure on BP to clean up the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

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Co2
The reason I mentioned Greenpeace etc and presumed the author would not be so keen on them owning the oceans is that they would restrict access to their property. They wouldnt charge a fee, introduce restrictions on oil drilling, fishing etc. They would say "KEEP OUT".
As is their right as the "property owner". Where would that leave the authors desire for increased exploitation and development of OUR oceans?

Yabby
You call the residents of Florida "rich capitalists". How do you know. Many Florida residents are retirees. Hardly the definition of "rich capitalists". Why shouldnt they bankrupt BP for what they have done. Their home and environment is being fouled by this spill with no end in sight. Shareholders should be more careful where they invest their money. Do shareholders not have a duty to make sure the company/s they own behave in an ethical and lawful manner?
Anyway you are full of it when you say that BP is owned by British pensioners. Im sure there are a few but since less than half of BP shareholders are British I wonder how the pommy pensioners are in control. Indeed according to BPs website it is only one third owned by UK citizens/businesses. 25% of shareholders are from the US! http://www.bp.com/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9010453&contentId=7019612
All "property" is theft. Doubly so for privitising current and past common assets "owned" by all, both current people and future ones.
Posted by mikk, Monday, 21 June 2010 4:51:50 PM
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Yes, oil spills are not just the fault of companies like BP, but of society itself. The Truth is that society allows and sponsors oil spills to a degree, because it hate nature and animals. Animals are Superior to humans, and show humans up. They show humans the Reality of how disturbed and sickly they Truly are.

I read this poem :
"How wicked of BP
To give us what we demand
Cheap(ish) oil from 'neath the sea
And from the desert sand

So whose to blame for this catastrophe?
I looked in the mirror, and it was me.

If you drive a petrol guzzling car you share the blame

If you squeal at rising petrol prices you share the blame.

....
Look in the mirror."

A very good poem, but it fails to place the blame on society, instead it seems to place the blame onto individuals. Individuals are NOT responsible for the oil spill, nor any other action or event that occurs due to society. Only society and societal leaders are responsible.

For more information, visit My website at www.Truthmedia.8k.com and also pay attention to the "animal abuse" essay.
Posted by Seer Travis, Monday, 21 June 2010 5:00:08 PM
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*All "property" is theft*

I'm not sure what you mean by that one, Mikk. If you and I both
earn 100$, you blow yours at the pokies and I save mine, are
you going to begrudge me having more then you and want half of
mine too?

*Why shouldnt they bankrupt BP for what they have done.*

And who would benefit? Best to Keep BP operating and making profits,
which can be used to pay damages as well as an income stream for
all those pensioners which largely own the company. Not just British
pensioners, American ones too. Plus charities, philanthropic funds
etc, all who own BP shares. I sometimes wonder who you actually
hate, when you hate these corporations. The staff perhaps?

*Shareholders should be more careful where they invest their money.*

Mikk, when people put money in a pension fund or super fund, they
are not exactly going to go out onto oil rigs to see if the guys
are doing their job or not. The thing is, we've had over 40 years
of offshore drilling now, with very few problems. This is the first
major spill that I can recall, so lots of people will learn a great
deal and the industry will be all the wiser, when it comes to the
future. So that is a good thing. It is perhaps because of this
good record, that complacency could have set in.
Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 2:46:27 PM
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Some people post only about profits. They're greedy and obsessed with the black and can think of nothing else. Money, money, money! Show me the money!

And what will be the penalty for Chevron and Total's apocalypse and crimes against the environment? A 'petty cash' fine and business as usual?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/18/buncefield-fire-oil-company-guilty
Posted by Protagoras, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 3:01:48 PM
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What are you girls complaining about ? BP changed its name from something like 'British Petroleum' to just BP - but that wasn't enough for you ! Then they changed their logo to a flower to show their sincerity about being green, and even that wasn't enough either ! And they are investing millions in renewables like biofuels, but some people are still never satisfied !

As Ludwig says above, 'We don't know if BP is guilty of negligence of any sort or not.' Why can't you leave it at that ? You don't appreciate that BP is LOSING 100,000 barrels of oil EVERY DAY while this goes on ! Imagine what this is doing to their bottom line !

If Obama can bail out the banks, why can't he bail out BP - 39 % of its shareholders are Americans, so it really is substantially an American company. Is this spill in British waters ? No, it's in American waters. So it really is an American problem - so why isn't Obama fixing it ? Why hasn't he fixed it yet ? Has he got orders from his commie friends to keep this problem festering, just to make BP look bad ? Why isn't he putting booms across the Florida straits to stop the oil getting into the Gulf Stream, up to Canada, and then around the North Atlantic and across to Europe ?

Tony Hayward has explained again and again that he wasn't in the decision-making loop, but will you give him a chance ? No !

So this spill is not either BP's fault or Tony Hayward's fault, or anybody's really. Yet you expect BP to clean it up ! And then the Greenies rabbit on about seventy days at 100,000 barrels a day, as if BP doesn't care ! They know this is hurting investors in the US as well as in Britain ! They're people too - they like fishing, boating, all the things that the small people used to like to do.

So give them a break !

Yeah, right.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 11:41:14 PM
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