Runner, selfishness is what drives most people in this greed-driven world. We now live in an environment where things, careers and social climbing are much more important to many people than their own children.

What sort of parents will these children grow up to be?

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DavidG you write

'Runner, selfishness is what drives most people in this greed-driven world. We now live in an environment where things, careers and social climbing are much more important to many people than their own children.'

Could not agree more. Thank God for Jesus who has always been the answer to corrupt human nature.

"If we’re going to be true feminists, should this not mean upholding femininity? Should we not be embracing womanhood and what makes women women - and raising those characteristics up as worthy of respect and honour."

You go right ahead, sweetie. Nobody's stopping you, as far as I know. Look, love, I'm even doing my best to adopt the patronising patriarchal tone that housewives were addressed by in the 50s when women were women and a man knew he could come home from work to an adoring family, a beer and a roast dinner. And if you want to live that way, and you can find a man who is willing to foot the bill, then good luck to you. Personally I'd rather have the second income and an intelligent engaged companion.

The Pill is a product of science not feminism. It gives men and women more choice about parenthood and it took the fear out of having sex. Young people were having sex pre-pill, hence the high rate of abortions among Catholic women and high adoption rates prior to the pill and to the Single Parent Pension.

For economic reasons some people put off having babies and for some of them it will be too late from a fertility aspect.

The problem lies mainly with our economic system and consumerism. The push to create 'working families', contributors to the economy first and foremost. The value of parenthood is a low priority unless it is talked about in terms of growth. It it is wrong to blame feminism and the pill.

There is no creativity or flexibility in the nature of work. The economy could be shaped to ensure greater choice for parents. Childcare is not for everyone and IMO I think it is to our detriment when institutionalised child care is the norm rather than the exception.

Even Joe Hockey at the Press Club was willing all female workers back at work after a short period post-birth. No concerns at all about a six week old baby being separated from its parents for large periods of time. We have more material things now though much of it due to debt, but less choice about family life. We used to be able to live on one income so in many ways we are actually worse off.

No it has nothing to do with the pill, it is about productivity. When did we ever see a Treasurer talk about helping SAHPs. Recently Abbott raised it and was shouted down by his own Shadow Cabinet.

The cost of childcare is subsidised, there is parental leave but not much in the way of assistance for other types of families. Personally I believe we should live with our choices working or not with assistance only for those on low incomes, rather than more and more money being thrown at the middle classes for votes.

What sort of parents will these children grow up to be?
David G,
The ones we have been seeing for the last twenty years. ! But that is not the real question we should be asking. We should ask those social engineers & Professors of sociology etc. from a couple of decades ago & how they think now. Surely, there's plenty archival stuff of these morons mouthing off in the media.

Why is it that almost all of those "really" concerned about Raunch culture seem to be also pushing a broader morals barrow? Has the broad levels of harm being done by raunch culture been confirmed by those without particular moral concerns? Could it be that teen's have almost always tended to push boundaries and do things that appear destructive to older wiser heads yet most survive the experience and go onto be relatively sane adults?

If people are not marrying because they have access to contraception which reduces the likely hood of an unplanned pregnancy that's probably a good thing. Marrying because someone is pregnant or because sex is otherwise in short supply is hardly the basis for a healthy relationship.

The pill has contributed to massive changes in society, not all have been universally wonderful but the thing about it is that there is choice. Not always easy choice but choice all the same.

R0bert