sonofgloin as a bystander I applaud that last post. OLO would be a far better place if more people were able to reconsider their first response and deal with it when they get it wrong.

My impression is that the harm done by perceived injustice is far worse than the actual punishment regardless of the form the punishment takes (within a sane range).

R0bert

Thanks for the clarification sonofgloin. I had not read your comment until you had already posted the follow-up and am glad you re-read it in context with the rest of what I wrote.

I should add when I say that I carried that event with me, I do not lay awake at night thinking about it nor did the event affect me adversely despite my feelings of injustice. Bad as it was it probably made me a fairer and well-adjusted adult able to discern right from wrong.

Andrew Denton is having a re-run at the moment and I caught Paul Featherstone the other day who was the emergency services person involved with the mine collapse in Beaconsfield and the Stuart Diver rescue.

Featherstone said that "some adversity is necessary to form character". I agree, and while I don't welcome bad acts, the fact is we are all human and we may at some time experience bad times or bad behaviour, or we may be the perpetrator knowingly or unknowingly.

It is what we do with those experiences that make us or break us.

Yes, well I'm feeling rather neglected lately, since Col Rouge took his leave, I mean! I think it only fair that some of the spleen is reserved for me! After all, I try to upset everyone, and not just the ladies!
Maybe it's time for some people to do a doctor who, and change identity; familiarity breeds contempt. There's obviously a bit of history behind the blood-letting. I find Antiseptic's posts mostly very shrewd, but there is without doubt a thick strip of misogyny there.
On the other hand, some of the ladies (no names) are also men haters, or seem incapable of stepping outside their insular little world views. It seems we're either mannered or ill-mannered. My recommendation is that we all make a conscious decision to let go of our cherished perspectives and bugbears and think outside the square, or in this case outside the gender. Indeed, I'm much more interested in the world, and that perennial philosophical question, 'how should we live?', than I am in paddling my own canoe. It's having our thinking seriously challenged that makes us grow; must we always defend that wicket at any cost, even when we know we were out? As Gilchrist showed us, it's infinitely more noble to walk!
I look forward to walking! Dismantle my arguments and reveal my asinine thinking, and I'll thank you for liberating me from myself! We can't all be right, indeed it's a safe bet that we're all wrong.
Anyway, in the interests of peace and enlightenment.

Squeers
Some noble goals and high aspirations, but did you intend this for the monogamy thread? :)

Apologies folks, the post above was intended for another thread. I'm blushing!

Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 9 May 2010 1:31:03 PM
My impression is that the harm done by perceived injustice is far worse than the actual punishment regardless of the form the punishment takes (within a sane range).

I agree. In an example I gave earlier about the right of the State to impose and carry out a death penalty.It is not just the taking of the condemns future. It is the possibility of an innocent life being taken and the dual psychological impacts of the loss of your own life and the torture of knowing you are innocence of the crime. Absolutely psychologically devestating.