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Rudd forgets that population is about the people (and planning) : Comments
By Cory Bernardi, published 6/5/2010Like so many other programs and promises, Mr Rudd jumped into the deep end without thinking. Now he’s floundering and gasping for breath.
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Posted by skeptic, Thursday, 6 May 2010 4:38:47 PM
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"It seems the main problem is the excess consumption of resources, rather than the number of people."
Brilliant point, Stezza. If we stuck every Australian in a chook cage and provided a diet of porridge, I reckon 100 million would be a cinch. But this policy would have several drawbacks aside from the probable reluctance of potential migrants to live in a chook cage: It would also be likely that boat people would prefer the luxury chook pens on Christmas Island to standard chook pens in Australia. What proponents of lower consumption should realise is that the reason we have mass immigration is to boost consumption. Why do you think that government is sinking in massive amounts of debt to provide infrastructure for more people, yet only mention the cause of the debt in favourable terms? Maybe they hate koalas, but perhaps to find a reason you might sart by asking who is benefiting from the increased migration. Posted by Fester, Thursday, 6 May 2010 7:11:34 PM
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“Our country needs to be able to absorb a growing population and the consequences that come with it. This will require considered, intelligent planning, adequate infrastructure and resources, and a competent Government that is not afraid to make the tough decisions.”
Tough decisions indeed: The tough decision the author seems to be mulling over is just what date should be chosen to arrive at a population of 36 million, or any other number greater than the present. And then continue expanding to some new time frame and number. And if, as he states, we need to be able to absorb a growing population now – then we will need to be able to absorb a growing population at any time in the future. Under his government’s direction we are sure to fit in: when our present 26 million becomes 52 (in 35 years at present growth rate) just cut our consumption in half – or more, if productivity of our land continues to decrease. With the population still growing, as required by Cory Bernadi, just halve consumption yet again. And halve it again after that, and again, and again. She’ll be jake, mate the anti-people population boosters tell us: Whether it is for Australia or for the world, just keep tightening the belt, and plundering the resource base - people's lives are meant to be miserable in Australia, in the world. Posted by colinsett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 8:16:15 PM
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Utter Hoggwash! To make matters worse, the Liberal Party has no plan to provide for future productivity, sustainability and 'live-enable-bility' of life-quality needs.
Out of touch: If the Liberals were serious for just one moment they'd present just one policy we could take seriously as a "liberal" policy. It is sad to see such insincere "Liberal" Australian Hogwash bantered each day, A costly nonsense of the ridiculous taken out beyond the outreach of the ridiculous. Too ridiculous to be taken seriously. Falsehood and deception, a hecklers noise based on meaningless childlike squibbles reducing any progress, debunking the best efforts to nation building, confidence, anti-bullying, at a time when Australia needs vision and social influence, accomplishment of a common task from its [leading] opposition. PM Rudd by contrast sets example with a ALP team that for the very most is geniune and sensitive to the need for REFORM, for CHANGE, for a GREATER HUMANITY, regardless of the heartless processes, crazy-fired blockage of good policies shifted through reductionism in todays game of devil made platforms, in Liberal politics. http://www.miacat.com/ . Posted by miacat, Thursday, 6 May 2010 11:46:21 PM
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www.hans-hass.de/Englisch/index_english.htm
Cheryl, have a read of the above link. To the women of the world. Posted by individual, Friday, 7 May 2010 6:04:21 AM
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let's get it straight. Both major parties want big time population growth. Don't worry about what the opposition says, they just spent ten years talking up the big Australia just to dump it when KRudd began the discussion.
The two party system that we are caught in is where our problem lies. We need a shake up in the political system. After 12 years of the Howard nationalist administration of no infrastructure, no public spending, anti worker and super pro business the Rudd administration is looking weak. Give it a chance to work, the Howard government looked ordinary after their first term as well and if we remember they lost the popular vote at that election. You can site the GST but whose idea was that? Population growth is a disaster for this country economically, ecologically and socially. Growing the population now is only putting off the inevitable and covering for the ever greedy and spoilt baby boomers. The country can not support 35 - 40 million people. We don't have the social infrastructure or the agriculture to sustain these numbers never mind the water resource. The economic system that is so poorly structured that any variation to the norm such as a mining tax sends the whole economy into a spin. Socially we have seen the brake down of the balance in social standards and harmony with over population of our cities and very poorly executed immigration policy again based on business needs not the interest of the people. We really do seem to have a problem remembering that business should serve the needs of the community not the other way around. We need a restructure of our nation, start with setting a population based on the ecological limit and social balance that we love and has made this a great nation, then build business and the economy to fit those needs and maintain the social health of our nation. Let go of greed and remember that Standard of living is not Quality of life. Posted by nairbe, Friday, 7 May 2010 7:10:55 AM
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Where were you when the ‘business migration Law’ regulated the intake of migrants and the ‘Privacy Legislation’ came about to further diminish honesty in Australia?
Rudd did not win any election. People just had a bellyful of your malevolence, Mr. Senator Bernardi.
No one has won an election in Australia since Curtin’s death.
Besides, what at present is an election if not a fraudulent carnival, an orchestrated illusion of Democracy?
I am sure you do not know what Democracy is, I am sure because if you knew, you, an honorable man, would not be a Senator.
Only the Nation where the vote, as unit of political Power, is in the pocket of Mr. Citizen at all times, can call itself Democratic.
In a Democracy, the ones who, like you, wished to occupy a position in the running of affairs common to all Citizens would have to disclose their qualifications, experience and possessions for the candidature.
Mr. Citizen, the boss, would need to assess not only your eligibility and the time within which you can accomplish the task to be undertaken but also wishes to retain your possessions as security for your bona fide.
No more drolleries just clear equitable business.
This is all.