And yet again some quotes from the science is settled brigade in 1970

'“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

and don't forget our coolist alarmist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

How can this current crop of alarmist get so much press? Fantasy upon fantasy dressed in science. I wonder what the next scare will be?

well runner, it's because scientists today know everything there is possible to know about climate, why, they know exactly what it will be like in 50 years or by the turn of next century.

You see in the past climate science was not as perfect as it is today - and no don't ask about weather because "that's different".

Just because they have been wrong before, that's in the past and should only be referred to when dismissing skeptics, it's all abut the future now and everyone important, in their opinion, agrees.

Get with the campaign buddy, invest in renewables or get into science and you'll understand that there's money in all these research projects. As so many people say on this forum, we should be investing in causes of climate change, as we try to find any other reason why it is not natural .. we're convinced it is not natural and if we just tweak this and hide that .. hey, let's blame this gas, or maybe that one .. what's today, Tuesday so it's not cosmic rays, is it?

you don't even have to study causes of climate, say "Lions of the Serengeti and the effect of climate change on their toenails" - ooooh climate change, better fund that one!

You would have to be a religious zealot to sign up to the ridiculous doomsaying and end of the world hysterics being sold as scientific fact.

How many predictions of differing sea level are we up to now?

How many end of the world predictions are we up to - and how many times has the world ended?

(That or they have vested interests? I assume all the warmists have sinister reasons that they continue to push this bandwagon, and no lack of substance will ever convince them .. I also suspect they are zombies or Klingons armed with mighty conspiracy theories. /sarc)

Someone say conspiracy theory?

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2888700.htm

Andrew Bolt's there, but ... but,

Where's Arjay?

Where's Nick Minchin?

qanda and bugsy
the point is in my article of last week. It is clear and has been repeated many times. Lockwood conceeds the point that the magnetic solar field dictates climate but, crucially, and I have noted this qualification many times, he alleges that the link breaks down in 1985 (ergo CO2 must be to blame). The evidence for this link is overwhelming and is cited in the Lockwood paper. He does not try to contest it. The argument is over climate later than 85 which I won't go into here..
Andrew Glikson's article is seriously out of date because he doesn't take any of that into account. His is still the view that CO2 has dictated warming in PAST CLIMATES, and there is serious doubt over that point. Much as I enjoy chatting with you guys the patience (and certainly the politeness) is on my side.

Maybe qanda and bugsy should check the latest research by Lockwood et al. "Are cold winters in Europe associated with low solar activity?" (April 2010). They may find like Lockwood did since his 2007 paper that things are not as cut and dried they think. Lockwood states,Average solar activity has declined rapidly since 1985 and cosmogenic isotopes suggest an 8% chance of a return to Maunder minimum conditions within the next 50 years (Lockwood 2010 Proc. R. Soc. A 466 303–29) He goes on to say, despite hemispheric warming, the UK and Europe could experience more cold winters than during recent decades.