"At least 30 years is required to validate this climate trend - separating the signal (human induced forcing) from the noise (natural variability)."

Qanda, doesn't that mean it'll be another 18 years before you satisfy your own standard of proof?

A scaremongering industry shill all worried about where those contributions are going to come from.

I'm sure something will come up.

Will the same dupes vote Labor at the next election, of course, because they didn't vote Labor because of a proposed ETS at the last election, it was Workchoices remember, they had a "mandate" with 51.9% of the vote. (sarcasm of course)

"To regain credibility" oh good luck mate, the ALP knows that's gone, and you guys hitched your wagon to it and now find yourselves a laughing stock and will lose some contributors - suck it up, no clever eco spin is going to get you out of this for a while.

It was a bubble in the best tradition of bubbles over the last few hundred years, and it burst, people eventually do wake up.

Go chase whalers or something, I'm sure you'll come up with something to shake the shekels out of people's pockets, sheesh you're a salesman, you'll work it out.

Peter Hume and Amicus

Your responses typify those of arm chair pseudo-experts, without confidence or conviction - no doubt gleaned from the 'denialosphere'.

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Jefferson

No. We will have a statistically valid indication of any change in the warming trend by 2015. Unfortunately, it is is already starting to trend up again.

Your post reflects the misinterpretation or deliberate distortions that many of the cynics have attributed to Phil Jones' comments about the trend since "1995".

You should really be going back to about 1985 - but most like to incorporate the series since satellite measurements began.

And it's not my "standard of proof" - it's what you learn when you have to apply time series analysis.

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That's the best odo can do - attack the author and what he represents.
As I said, odo - a waste of space and a waste of time.

The current Government is nothing short of gutless and incompetent. If they really believed in the biggest moral challenge of the century they would of called a double disillusion election. Unfortunately the winner from this will be their bedfellows (the Greens). Most of the electorate are still blinded from spin, hypocrisy and incompetence. The marxist media will ensure Labour will be re elected. We will continue to reap what we sow.

Australia does NOT use a first past the post electoral system ! The UK does, causing makes their current election interesting, with calls to introduce preferential voting similar to Australia.

"The Australian electoral system has evolved over nearly 150 years of continuous democratic government, and has a number of distinctive features including compulsory voting, preferential voting (known elsewhere as instant-runoff voting) and the use of proportional voting to elect the upper house, the Australian Senate. "

Extract from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_electoral_system


"The conservative government of Billy Hughes introduced preferential voting as a means of allowing competition between the two conservative parties without putting seats at risk."

Extract from above document section: Preferential voting

Back to Carbon Tax, now Kevin Rudd dropped another/THE core policy rather than attempt to achieve some resolution...

This failure to pass legislation addressing issues likely shall result in our coming elections with many allocating first preference votes to GREEN candidates, then follow their usual orientation.

As this only clear way they can demonstrate their frustration at lack of progress in Australia.

The challenge for Tony Abbott is to present a policy with Green support which can resolve the deadlock

"The challenge for Tony Abbott is to present a policy with Green support which can resolve the deadlock"

This assumes anyone still cares beyond the fringe eco alarmists.

hey look, oil leak!