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By Kellie Tranter, published 28/4/2010As the war in Afghanistan marches on, and will soon escalate with the planned Kandahar offensive, spare a thought for the 11 Australian soldiers killed in Afghanistan
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Posted by Pericles, Friday, 30 April 2010 2:31:11 PM
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Chris Lewis is correct in stating that we fight for a lot of irrational and rational reasons.
May be so, but should we not question the propensity for irrationality? Misunderstandings is natural and inevitable. Just think of children growing up, or an illiterate person lacking knowledge. (There is nearly 70% illiteracy in Afghanistan.) In the case of children, lack of understanding is gradually being corrected by learning. (We automatically accept this process.) In the case of adults, lack of understanding can be corrected by diplomacy. Unfortunately, not everyone has the talent, or sees the need for diplomacy. This is especially so in the armed forces and among some politicans. (This is everywhere, not just in Afganistan.) To reiterate, misunderstanding is natural. The question is: - are we prepared to do something about it, or carry on as before? Posted by Istvan, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 7:14:56 PM
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Of course, Pericles is very well practised at denying evidence that is perfectly clear to everyone else who looks at it.
If we accept that this: http://images.inmagine.com/img/imagesource/is_single1105/is300248.jpg ... is an image of a building being destroyed with high explosives, then why isn't this: http://cms.ae911truth.org/images/stories/explo2.jpg ... even more so an image of a building being destroyed with high explosives? Posted by daggett, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 1:24:11 AM
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Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations are very heavily infiltrated by intelligence and we are killing more and more of the senior leadership ever year.
The senior leadership of terrorist organizations are particularly nasty. But those who commit the attacks are probably very severely brainwashed. So they are brainwashed so severely that they are willing to kill themselves for their misguided cause. We probably won't have the surveillance technology for about thirty (30) years to eradicate terrorism. What should we do now to stop this violence? Terrorist organizations are enemies of The U.S. and our allies. What would it take to form a truce and potentially a friendship to create lasting peace. Sure forgetting 911 and other attrocities is hard, but does holding on to them justify this and potentially many future wars or violent interactions which will lead to a further substantial loss of life. So I guess it all comes down to both sides either continuing to act in a vengeful way in return for the loss of their loved ones - or alternatively everyone saying enough is enough and we want peace now. Terrorist leaders could negotiate with The U.S. and our allies via internet posts or via video tapes sent secretely to news organizations. The Obama Administration could use whitehouse.gov and messages broadcast in the middle east. The question is - how much do we want peace? I don't think it's logical to die in pursuit of peace. The terrorists who kill themselves have very strong dedication and commitment for their misguided cause. If they could focus this energy and determination for good - well, this would be great. Imagine all the good work they could do as missionaries. Who knows once we are all friends a fancy PR Firm may even rebrand them from, 'Terrorists' TO 'Followers of God!' This is just a different perspective as I want peace now. John -- John Anthony Pattison South Yarra 3141 Australia +61431909642 jpattison@gmail.com http://au.linkedin.com/in/johnanthonypattison http://johnanthonypattison.blogspot.com/ http://www.meetup.com/Engineering-Machine-Consciousness/ http://www.meetup.com/The-CPX/ johnanthonypattison [Skype Video Call] Posted by John Anthony Pattison, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 2:56:01 AM
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So, what makes you so sure that Islamist extremists. operating out of Afghanistan, were the principle perpetrators of 9/11, the London Tube bombings, the Bali bombings and the Madrid bombings, John Anthony Pattison?
Could you please cite any documentary evidence that has led you to this conviction? Does it strike you as even the least bit suspicious that, after more than 8 years of occupation of the supposed main hotbed of international terrorism, from which all these attacks were supposedly launched, that not one single person with a proven link to 9/11 has been captured? And that includes every one of the hundreds of Guantanamo Bay detainees, incarcerated and tortured and denied basic human rights for years. Posted by daggett, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 7:34:54 AM
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I don't think that anyone except a crackpot conspiracy theorist will agree with you.
The U.S. Government does much good. Barack Obama has good character and vision. He is a once in a lifetime President who has much work ahead of him. I am one hundred (100) per cent behind him. Sure I am a Republican, but I am also very interested in Bipartisan Policy and I don't like it when people interfer with and hamper the government in its attempts to improve The U.S. and improve the world through signing into law the required policy. John -- John Anthony Pattison South Yarra 3141 Australia +61431909642 jpattison@gmail.com http://au.linkedin.com/in/johnanthonypattison http://johnanthonypattison.blogspot.com/ http://www.meetup.com/Engineering-Machine-Consciousness/ http://www.meetup.com/The-CPX/ johnanthonypattison [Skype Video Call] Posted by John Anthony Pattison, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 5:09:19 PM
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But I think you may need a stronger opening gambit than:
>>In fact the evidence has never been produced...<<
especially when it becomes a preface to:
>>Our own eyes tell us that the Twin Towers were blown apart with high explosives... and that WTC 7 'collapsed' as a result of a classic controlled demolition<<
To which I can only say...
In fact the evidence has never been produced.