Jocelynne

Fantastic. You actually get it.

I think that Lydia's just trying to distance herself from the OTHER Lydia Turner...

Anyone for a fashion shoot?

www.lydiaturner.com

Dwight,

The reason I use MTR and her cohorts is that just about every article on this issue on OLO is either directly from MTR or reposted from her website, and while they might not all march in lock step, on this this issue, there is little deviation.

The main point coming through is that it is un feminist to be sexy, (as other "real" women can't) and that if you want to be taken seriously you need to adhere to a politically correct image. Most women actually resent being told what to do, or how to act, whether by men, or these radical feminists.

As for other issues, you brought in religion in this thread, and are pursuing red herrings.

What is the end game of this "body image" issue. beautiful girls having to cover themselves up so as not to offend those less well endowed?

My agenda is that anyone telling me what I should or should not do according to what is considered appropriate really p*sses me off. And I am unlikely to find common ground with the likes of MTR, Stephen Conroy etc irrespective of their religion or beliefs.

"Most women actually resent being told what to do, or how to act, whether by men, or these radical feminists."

+1

oh cornflower, posting again are we?

STILL managed to evade the last question pitched at you - ie how is Kate Ellis' photoshoot improving women's body image, which is what SHE claims it does?

Pathetic.

Shadow Minister

yes... judging by her photo i'm sure this author is your stereotypical butch hairy feminazi with an ultra-conservative agenda to make all women wear sensible shoes ...

how absurd for you to accuse me of bringing up the topic of religion when it is YOU who accused the author of being a Calvinist then incorrectly cross posted a quote about church - get off it.

It's clear to me that your gripe (along with Cornflower's) actually has nothing to do with this article at all.

This article has never stated that women should not be allowed to dress up and have fun. Look at the photo of the author for christ's sake, she is clearly dressed up!

No, this is a gripe about MTR and her so called 'cohorts.' Activism requires working with people you don't share same worldviews with - and christ, i can't stand many of the people i work with. But you know what? you do it because it's the only way change will ever occur. Imagine if you only ever agreed to deal with people who shared your same political and religious views.

But it's typical of you, Shadow Minister, to just ignore all the holes in your argument and advance your own crusade.

Time to grow up.