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Female genital surgery, the gender revolution, and J.M. Coetzee : Comments

By Jennifer Wilson, published 26/3/2010

Perhaps we have a sacred responsibility to celebrate love, including s*xual love, wherever it appears.

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I don't think that anyone could deal with the subject of women's vanity and plastic surgery as well as Jennifer Saunders did in her Absolutely Fabulous series.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/abfab/vault/index.shtml
Posted by Cornflower, Friday, 26 March 2010 6:45:37 PM
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A society that can afford to spend money on having their genitals sliced and diced to make them look tidier obviously has too much money.

I was interested in Norrie the genderless one. From observation there seems to be a whole lot of different degrees of male and female in both sexes. There are big alpha, alpha males who seem to have a double whammy of maleness, then there is the ordinarty alpha male, then the slighty less macho males,right down to the really femine and gay male. The same on the female side, their are real alpha voluptous sexpot females, then more average but definitely female, females. Then you get the Margaret Thatcher types who seem to be female with more than their share of male drive, as well as some of the sporty females with obvious masculine traits and abilities, right through to the the butch lesbians.

The point I am suggesting is that it may actually be quite normal to have varying degrees of femaleness and maleness and that the homosexuals and lesbians are just at the extreme edge of this natural occurrence. Having these degrees of male and femaleness, makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. Take for example an alpha alpha male who may have great strength and warrior skills,a real action man in times of trouble and then there is the more intellectual professor type who can take society forward with wonderful inventions and intellectual insights and in this way it doubles the human chances of survival.

The churches may be wrong in thinking that the homeosexuals are so different, it may just be a matter of degree.

Does madame wish to have a Brazilian or a Labia trim today? No just the coffee thanks.
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 26 March 2010 10:36:35 PM
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Labium, labia.

That reminds me of the one about the woman who was so dreadfully embarrassed about the size of her labia that she went to a plastic surgeon.

“How can I help you?” he asked.

“Well doctor, actually it’s something I’m so frightfully embarrassed about, I can hardly bring myself to tell you, let alone anyone else.”

“That’s alright, go ahead.” he says “You can tell me.”

“Well it’s just…. it’s my labia. When I crouch over the mirror and have a look, I’m sure I’m abnormal when I compare mine with those trim labia of the airbrushed models on the internet, and I’m crippled with embarrassment even thinking about the size and ugliness of them.”

“Oh look, that’s no problem at all.” says the doc “We can just give you a bit of a trim, reconstruct them, and next thing you know, you’ll be just like a pre-pubescent girl - perfectly normal!”.

“Oh” she says “That’d be great. But… but… the thing is… it’s just that… I’m just so crippled with embarrassment about it I couldn’t bear for anyone to know!”

“Don’t be silly.” says the doc. “We in the medical profession are really actually trained and objective scientists don’t y’know, and anyway, you’d be under general anaesthetic - you wouldn’t notice a thing!”

So next thing you know, he was as good as his word, she went under general anaesthetic, and didn’t notice a thing.

However when she woke up, she was livid with embarrassment to see that there were three big bunches of flowers at her bedside.

“Doctor I’m terribly upset!” she says “I told you I was dreadfully embarrassed about this and now look… who are all these flowers from?”

“Oh really they’re nothing to get upset about.” He says “See, this bunch of flowers here – well they’re just from me! To thank you for being such a wonderful patient!”
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 27 March 2010 8:58:27 AM
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(cont.)

“Oh.” She says. “Then… what about this second bunch?”

“Well that’s nothing either. They’re just from all the nurses to thank you for being such a co-operative patient!”

“Oh?” she said. “And what about this third bunch?”

“Oh they’re just from the guy in Ward Seven to thank you for his new set of ears."
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 27 March 2010 9:00:01 AM
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I can't believe woman would want to do that. If you have never seen one, it's a very intricate piece of equipment. I don't think it should be played around with.
What lengths men go to, to get a glimps of one is beyond belief, yet you say women don't like the look of it. Before women even contemplate mutilating themselves, there should be a nation wide talk fest about the implications of such a move. Women should remember if it were not for this intricate piece of equipment they would not be in existence today.
Posted by Desmond, Saturday, 27 March 2010 1:32:32 PM
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But for the labia majora women wouldn't exist? How do you figure that?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 27 March 2010 7:20:10 PM
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