The saddest aspect of the debate in my view is that at some point in the near future, we are going to have to vote for one or the other of these two turkeys.

Rudd hasn't a genuine bone in his body. Every fibre has been manufactured for the purposes of a political career, and he has become a master of all the chicanery, dissembling and tricksiness that goes with it.

Abbott may be more "genuine" - perhaps, I'm not sure - but in the lowest-common-denominator manner that is our national calling-card. Picturing him representing Australia as our political leader overseas sends a shiver down my spine.

These two are probably the worst advertisement for compulsory voting, ever.

If you ask me, all voters have already had a huge win, as if nothing else, TA has at least made Krudd aware of his 'shortcommings' and, win loose or draw, we will all be much better off for it.

Thanks, TA, for waking this fool up.

The media report referred to the UN report. If you think the former is wrong, take it up with them. In the meantime, there is no reason why I should believe someone I don't know just because they tell me I've got it wrong.

Leigh, it's not a secret report http://unhcr.org.au/ - and perhaps you could read some of the other editorial on the subject and get a different perspective. But always best to base an argument on the source not media spin