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Christianity and politics: a problematic mix : Comments

By Roy Williams, published 1/3/2010

The tenets of Christianity do not neatly conform to any party-political agenda.

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Denny <" ."sanctity of life issues" belongs in the human rights category ...there are no human rights without the guarantee of the ability to exercise them...namely the right to be born alive!"

Denny, it is exactly because of people with views like yours that Christianity and politics should not mix.
Abortion is legal in Australia, but that does not mean anyone HAS to have an abortion.

These laws allow for choice, whereas before they came in we had women killing themselves and their foetus or baby by trying to abort themselves.

Would you rather go back to nursing those women again? I certainly don't. There is a vast difference between fully grown women and a tiny embryo or foetus, and you know it. I don't support third trimester abortions except when the mother's life is in danger, or the baby has a condition that is not compatible with life.

Luckily, women in this country have the choice to abort their pregnancies if necessary. That's not going to change Denny.
Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 1 March 2010 9:27:06 PM
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I agree, the Libs, Abbott in particular are dangerous. This guy uses a pretence of Catholicism to push hid "ideas" but they are actually biased views of a narrow minded male chauvinist, to use an older phrase.

He insists there should be no abortion but equally tells young women to not have sex.

Does this not reveal the truth about this guy? He is afraid of sex as if girls don't have sex as he advises then abortions can't happen. Yet, of course, he did exactly what he says others shouldn't didn't he? Thought he had an out of wedlock child and owned up for political advantage when he wasn't the father at all.

This is an example of how hypocritical and, well, mean and tricky to coin a phrase, those that feign religious belief are. If he was a serious believer he could not act the way he does.

Rudd is similar but more hidden so we don't know his true character.

Given that there is no God it is not surprising that nearly every politician claims to believe as there is political advantage in it.

Yes, politics and religion should not mix, but there is nothing more natural really as both "professions" are full of lies and liars.
Posted by RobbyH, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 7:28:34 AM
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What a suprise. A set of ideas doesn't perfectly fit into the left-wing box or right-wing box. Can someone explain why people continue to perpetuate these two inane categories? Apart from the obvious reasons: very lazy thinking and petty name-calling by columnists.

And don't get me started on the oxymoron "progressive conservative"!
Posted by ScottWritesAboutStuff, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 8:28:32 AM
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Christian, Jewish and Islamic fundamentalist are so similar both believe in the supernatural, a young Earth created by a supernatural fantasy in 4004BCE, evolution theory is a conspiracy and a lie, all you need is blind faith to believe in impossible religious fantasy. Statistics show that these ridiculous religious beliefs in the USA bible belt states and Islamic states are exactly similar. Next time your chanting the ten commandments have a look at the penalties, there the same. Death by stoning?
If a 14th century Christian trapped in ice was brought back to life today he would be considered completely ignorant of all known knowledge, science, medicine, geography, even by a child in 3rd class, but when it came to religion absolutely nothing would have changed from the blinded dogma of the dark ages, every thing still written and actually believed the same, why, it's unquestionable thats why? He would now see the once irrefutable biblical fact of the Earth no longer being flat and the Sun revolving around it, a Heresy that religious cults daily burnt people alive over.
Next time you religious cult members go off to your weekly fantasy land indoctrination church, stop and think about the millions of people burnt alive and slaughtered in the name of your mythical gods and religions?
These same biblical writings have been used by kings and politicians causing nonstop wars throughout history, the inquisitions, then the fascist catholics dictators like Franco, Mussolini who created the Vatican state in 1929,Hitler who had Gott Mitt Uns "GOD WITH US" printed on the Nazi army belt buckles and committed genocide for Jesus, none ever excommunicated by the cult like the once dreaded Mary MacKillop was?
You want religion in politics, remember Stalin was a trainee priest in a seminary just like Tony Abbott once was?
Religion is no guarantee of pious behavior, history actually shows the opposite?
The Liberal party today looks more like a religious cult than a political party, have you read, God under Howard the rise of the religious right in Australian politics, by Marion Maddox?
Posted by HFR, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 9:27:07 AM
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Most of the postings on this subject are nonsense and misimformation.
Prayer is not repetitcious crap or hot air as some here seem to think.
Christians are not aliens but are human beings.
If we all thought the same and looked the same we would not achieve much, for the body has many different parts and the combined total makes up the body a wonderous thing acheaving all we can imagine.
No body bothers to listen to the poor. If you sow spareingly you reap
spareingly. The author of christianity has given the world all that we enjoy today and only a pompous prideful ass thinks he is the centre of all wisdom and knowledge. Wake up Australia.
Posted by Richie 10, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 9:53:33 AM
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Denny, the blog is about church and politics not abortion? But have a look at a doco called, Abortion, Cops and Corruption, look it up on the net. Thats if your religious cult allows you to see real factual information on this subject and not just church propaganda? Thats why religion and politics are so dangerous! (Did you know the word propaganda was invented by the catholic church?
The doco explains why abortion is now legal and why the horror of the backyard abortion industry caused by the ignorant religious and the pressure they had on far right politicians had to end.
It is strange how a doctor can be so horrified by the results of illegal abortion on young women being admitted to his hospital after having backyard abortions and dying of septicemia and other complications and others in the medical profession so oblivious to the facts.
Having his house fire bombed and hired hit men trying to kill him, why, because he may end the money and corruption having abortion illegal generated! There are thousands of pregnancies terminated do you think they will just stop because some imbecile thinks it's what an imaginary deity might want, it's like thinking the banning of contraception will stop people having sex, just ask that idiot Sarah Palins daughter, or the millions that now have AIDS in Africa because of the stupidity of catholic cult indoctrination banning condoms!
A few months ago, a right to life group were protesting in the main street. I tried to speak to them about this doco to see if any of them could be capable of thinking for themselves, but a controller refused to let me, the protesters were like mindless zombies with thousand yard stares, chanting holding bibles they could have been straight out of the 14th century, I told the controller he was like an organ grinder and these people were his trained dancing monkey's, to see people in this state was really frightening and reminded me of just how dangerous religion is!
Posted by HFR, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 10:39:09 AM
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