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Why the Oscars are a con : Comments

By John Pilger, published 16/2/2010

This year’s Oscar nominations are a parade of propaganda, stereotypes and downright dishonesty.

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I remember John Pilger writing for the London Daily Mirror Newspaperin the 1960's. The usual bile and grief against "Western" democracy. Never said a word about the 100 million killed by communism of course. Only turned against the Kmer Rouge when his North Viet mates attacked them.
I can understand how awful he must feel seeing all his writings comming to nothing lol.
Yes the US has a terrible record but it is a democracy and it is running in the the right direction unlike Saddam Hussein and the Taliban.
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 5:12:00 PM
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JBowyer fails to acknowlege that Vietnam was a lie just like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Most of you miss the point of Pilger.We are the Hollywood whorshippers of image without substance.It is the image,that for most, now creates the reality.The ultimate objective now for many, is to live the image and not create their own reality.Hence we have a population who live in perpetual insecurity trying to attain an illusion of self,which is ulimately self destructive.

"We are the hollywood men,head piece filled with straw"
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 8:28:04 PM
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Yes it is a bit like the old cowboy and indian movies. Cowboys good, Indians bad. It wasn't until some of the later movies that Indians were portrayed in a less definitve way, highlighting issues such as prejudice and dispossession of land.

Many years ago Casey Kasem (then a well known American media identity) with Lebanese heritage, criticised Hollywood movies for always portraying Middle Easterners as either evil villians or likeable buffoons (not his words exactly) - the perfect foil for the dashing (Anglo Saxon) hero.

Fact is there are always the goodies and the baddies and most nations will portray their 'side' as the heroes. Hollywood is about making money and cashes in on nationalist sentiment. Avatar was sympathetic to the underdog which is a positive, even if the hero had to come from the exploiter camp. Fact is in real life, you have to get some of the 'exploiters' on side if you are going to influence a change in mindsets. eg. anti-Vietnam marches.

On a positive note, things have improved over the years and many good movies are made that reflect more realistically the ambiguity in global relationships, even if the facts are sometimes distorted for the sake of a good storyline.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 3:23:08 PM
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I think that John Pilger is a very perceptive and honest human being.He is not up there with the likes of TS Elliot in literary prowess,but he makes our current media prostitutes look very ordinary.

Power,guns,gonads and stolen capital does not make a civilisation.The West is now very corrupted and most of us don't or won't realise it.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 9:15:05 PM
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I don't understand the point of this article.

John Pilger seems to wind people up, but then fails to offer practical suggestions of how to fight against the injustices against which he rails. In my experience, this is a common characteristic of his articles.

I thought Avatar was very good, BTW.

John Pilger's complaint strikes me as nitpicking (although the budget for that movie was frightening and it seems implausible that Rupert Murdoch of all people would have funded it).

A favourable review can be found at http://candobetter.org/node/1762

I grant that most hollywood movies are propaganda for the US corporate elite, but a good many also tell a lot of the truth.

I thought it was fantastic how, in "Good Morning Vietnam" a Vietnamese fried of Adrian Cronauer, when he revealed that he was a member of the NLF, which was fighting against the US, was allowed to eloquently articulate why.

The best movie that I can think of at this moment (perhaps apart from Avatar) is Oliver Stone's JFK of 1991 which shows how President Kennedy was killed because he was a threat to the same US military industrial complex that JFK's immediate predecessor President Eisenhower warned against in his last days as President.
Posted by daggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 7:41:36 PM
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