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China is a testing ground for surveillance technology the west will eventually use. Guarantee guarantee Western countries are looking at this new use of monitoring people.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/china-using-computerised-cars-to-track-its-citizens-movements-habits/news-story/c6d60fc61022b815ca3a44005249c98b

China using computerised cars to track its citizens movements, habits

In a worrying escalation of the Chinese government’s spying network, its surveillance is now extending into everyone’s lives.

When Shan Junhua bought his white Tesla Model X, he knew it was a fast, beautiful car. What he didn’t know is that Tesla constantly sends information about the precise location of his car to the Chinese government.

Tesla is not alone.

China has called upon all electric vehicle manufacturers in China to make the same kind of reports — potentially adding to the rich kit of surveillance tools available to the Chinese government as President Xi Jinping steps up the use of technology to track Chinese citizens.

“I didn’t know this,” said Mr Shan. “Tesla could have it, but why do they transmit it to the government? Because this is about privacy.”

More than 200 manufacturers, including Tesla, Volkswagen, BMW, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Nissan, Mitsubishi and US-listed electric vehicle start-up NIO, transmit position information and dozens of other data points to government-backed monitoring centres, The Associated Press has found.

Generally, it happens without car owners’ knowledge.

The automakers say they are merely complying with local laws, which apply only to alternative energy vehicles. Chinese officials say the data is used for analytics to improve public safety, facilitate industrial development and infrastructure planning, and to prevent fraud in subsidy programs. But other countries that are major markets for electronic vehicles —

** the United States, Japan, across Europe — do not collect this kind of real-time data. **

That is what they say now BUT we all know the NSA,CIA etc have illegally been recording all internet transmissions for years.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 30 November 2018 12:01:04 PM
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Unfortunate but in truth a little more surveillance may save lives
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 December 2018 4:23:50 PM
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Yes Phil, they're all watching you. And talking about you behind your back, of course.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 2 December 2018 5:07:53 PM
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Belly - I can guarantee people will not be saying that when the technology is turned on individuals.

For example.
In China millions of people have been unable to go on planes or trains,
also unable to register their children in some schools, get home loans even open bank accounts.

Facial recognition cameras wait till they start programing them to detect for something trivial as outstanding parking fines or overdue library books.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 2 December 2018 5:11:19 PM
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Dear Philip,

Belly doesn't care because he knows that he wouldn't be around for long, until this comes to Australia.

Who ever asked them to save lives in the first place?

It is not for us that Big Brother does it, but for their own interests: they know very well that once we leave this world, they have lost us for good and no equipment whatsoever, no matter how sophisticated, can then track us!

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/burns-11082018141416.html
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 2 December 2018 5:48:05 PM
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Belly does not care because 1984 came and went without big brother
Because we need weapons to reduce the crime and terrorism that is a much bigger threat to us all
Belly dislikes intensely any form of PC any dog whistling about rights over riding the safety of us all
Posted by Belly, Monday, 3 December 2018 5:31:24 AM
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