Watching Steve Bannon - former Chief White House Strategist
being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson on "Four Corners"
Monday evening (3rd Sept. 2018) was fascinating television.
Both were well matched. Steve Bannon's claim was that
Australia is a hotbed of populism - ready for revolution
and that unless she confronts China - bad things will happen.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/steve-bannon-says-australia-is-a-hotbed-of-populism-ready-for-revolution/news-story/8e5836534abe0d3e

Hey Foxy,
The link you added doesn't bring up the article.
Here's the correct link.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/steve-bannon-says-australia-is-a-hotbed-of-populism-ready-for-revolution/news-story/8e5836534abe0d3ef6c59dcafbf01d8a

Also, here's the link to the entire Four Corners episode.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/populist-revolution/10196348

AC,

Thanks so much for that.

I obviously did not go far enough with the numbering.

Thanks for the correction and for the added link.

It was a fascinating program - well worth watching.

I learned a great deal from it.

Your Welcome Foxy,
It did look like there was a few missing digits at the end.
- I noticed that too after I posted my comment.

I started to watch the episode, but I'm almost tempted to go and refresh myself with some videos regarding the Bannon backstory first.

- For which I'd probably start here.
http://www.youtube.com/user/georgwebb/search?query=bannon
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc-zkfyzO6FYz3ERwrrVqw/search?query=bannon

You all know my angle well enough that I won't buy any 'official' story sold to me, especially by the ABC;
- But I figure what the hell; I'll watch it now anyway.

Thanks for sharing this article.

Also FYI, that last link I gave was to Lee Stranahan, who worked with Andrew Breitbart, so his take on Steve Bannon is definitely worthwhile.

Watched it and it changed nothing for me more interested in the award winning journalist who told us about watergate and his book,ABC today about Trump,we will hear more about that book

Good Morning AC and Belly,

I'm interested in learning more about Steve Bannon.
Especially his explanations on Trump - it has made
me curious to learn more.

Also I found the dialogue between Bannon and Sarah
Ferguson on the show - very well matched - and well worth
watching. Journalism at its best, I thought. She didn't let
him get away with anything - but he had all the answers
down pat. I imagine that he does his job well for Trump -
or for any organisation for which he works. He's a pro.
But then so's Sarah Ferguson. He almost (and I say almost)
had me wondering that perhaps I've been wrong about Trump
all along. And that's saying something. That's how good this
guy was.

If anybody thought that snippet of an interview was competent interviewing, well why should I suspect anything else coming as it did from the ABC Having done many hundreds of interviews over my career, constant interruption and other strategies to get your word or opinion in, was pathetic. Neither participants did themselves any credit, in my opinion.

It's basic common sense and good manners to allow your opposite number the right of reply, unless it's conducted under antagonistic conditions employed pursuant to lawful practices by police. We all know when arrested we're not obliged to say anything. However what can happen, after police have put certain questions in order to cover the criminal elements of the offence, often the accused person changes their minds, and elects to make a statement, which these days are recorded and videoed.

In the above instance it would've been nice if the ABC, had they pre-recorded the interview, asked him/her to take a breather and have a cup of tea, and recommence the interview, both agreeing not to interrupt the other.

Thank you ARMCHAIR CRITIC for the citation.

Well on me the interview had a totally different effect.
I thought that Steve Bannon did not allow Sarah Ferguson
to get away with anything. At one stage he even talked
over her - which was great. He was one tough charismatic
persona - and he knew exactly what he was doing. Plus he
was in control. He did not allow himself to be manipulated.
And this from a man who's been accused of being a "racist"
(there's that word again), an anti-Semite, and worse.

Fascinating viewing - in my opinion. And he came across in
a different light to what was expected. It made you think
which to me is a sign of a good interview. I had expected
to see a raving nutter - that's not what I got. What I saw
was a very charismatic individual.

Hi Foxy,
I thought it was a good interview and I agree with your thoughts on it, although I think Sarah probably had a assistance in the form of a headphone speaker in the ear she had covered.
She did badger him a little at times but he handled it pretty well.

That said, I know there's much more to Steve Bannon than what was explained in the interview.

Regarding Trump, you don't have to like him nor do you have to support him, but you should know that there is more to it all that what the media reports.

Hello AC,

I totally agree. I've become so interested as a result
of this particular interview that I've reserved books
on President Trump at my local library. I'd like to
learn more about the man. I also want to know more
about Steve Bannon.

It's also shown me the power that the media has on us.
It can influence our thinking. My family has been
telling me that for years.

Good for you Foxy,
I hope that you're able to find points of view that help you understand why many support Trump.
I don't care if you never support him yourself though, but I hope you become better able to see both sides.

I'm glad that 'Crossfire Hurricane' was mentioned in the interview, but I think the plan goes back much earlier than 2016 and Alexander Downers meeting with George Papadopolous.

See here, you only need watch the first minute.
http://youtu.be/y25mB7ZX6yY

I remember George saying that Downer had been compromised at some point.

AC,

I am beginning to see that there's always more to
consider than what we read in the media. And I'm
only now beginning to get a totally different
slant on things.

Thank You for your understanding and encouragement.

It is appreciated.

Bannon is someone I took an interest in long ago, just read two American news papers, looking for more from the white house leak and Trumps dummy spit, may I say this bloke, and the Trump team, remind me of world champion wrestling, we know it is fake, laugh about it, but day after day followers sit enthralled and hope the hero gets up in time to beat the baddy,that should horrify us all, to think that some, by supporting the fantasy side, support black shootings, even when they are unarmed, support NEO NAZI marches, cars running down and killing other marchers, America you are standing in it and it stinks

Dear Belly,

Thanks for your comments.

I'm still on a learning process at the moment - so
I haven't decided what to think - quite yet.

Look, you won't hear me say this too often...
- Trumps far from perfect all right -
In may ways we could all agree and disagree on.

But there really is two sides to all these issues;
And the facts are often all twisted around to suit a narrative.

Remember Foxy, Bannon even said the conservatives are not irrational people.

Hispanic unemployment at its lowest,
Black unemployment at its lowest
Economy growing at 4.7%

http://www.livetradingnews.com/atlanta-fed-lifts-q-3-gdp-prediction-to-4-7-104687.html#.W5DpUvYRXRY

You have to ask yourself what is it they aren't telling you?
What is it that doesn't add up?

I'm not going to force anything on you, that's what the left does.
Good work Foxy, I have faith you will learn more if you look.

AC,

Thank You.

I'm not going to give up.

I intend to pursue this journey and learn as much as I can.

Thanks for all your help and encouragement.

It means a lot.

Morning armchair critic we hold differing views but have been civil ,about it so please do not think this is meant to insult,in the matter of Trump it is my view branding any one not conservative right a leftist is nothing more than a deliberate well thought out lie, it is the boogeyman stuff our mums and dads warned us about to keep us away from trouble,further yes the Democrats did not deserve to win, wrong candidate wrong campaign wrong policies, they fueled Trumps victory, right now we mustlook with eyes wide open at the very real danger the man may have dementia, and that his election empowered Russia and China to increase the danger of a war we may not win,my hope is that Trump by his increasing demented behavior will breath new life and direction in to both sides of American politics before that country is beyond help Bannon, in my view is just another onlooker who is not brave enough to tell the King he has no clothes is in fact mad

Hey Belly,
"in the matter of Trump it is my view branding any one not conservative right a leftist is nothing more than a deliberate well thought out lie, it is the boogeyman stuff our mums and dads warned us about to keep us away from trouble..."

Well; I suppose you could hold the view that it's a deliberate a well thought out lie, but in fairness is there not also a possibility that this is just what you tell yourself to rationalise something that you don't completely understand?

First of all, I don't like gang mentality.
I don't particularly like the left / right paradigm.
In some ways they are both just 2 wings on the same bird.
I prefer to look at each and every issue on its own merits.
- And I also have to look at the bigger picture as well.

My support for Trump wasn't necessarily the support of a man himself;
It was more in support of the sum total of all the things this man spoke in support of, the issues he represented.

So that in no way means I support everything he does, but I did support him to be President over what Hillary Clinton represented, though its not like any of us vote.

His election empowered Russia and China?
Don't be naive.
Democrats policies empowered a conservative revolt.

Do you want to know the cold hard truth?
The Democrats are not the party for poor people.
They were the party keeping everyone poor.

Why do you think those stats improved when Trump was supposed to be bad?

I could give you just 3 pieces of the puzzle right now that would open your eyes and you probably could never go back; but would you even look?
I didn't want to post stuff too heavy for Foxy.
She's only just getting curious and you have to learn things on your own.

But here watch and read these; and find out.

http://youtu.be/364cxeR5EAg
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=NoneDare
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5646136/

And you REALLY need to watch the last one, for any of it to add up.

AC,

Thank You for continuing to contribute to this thread.

You're certainly providing us with a great deal of
food for thought. And I agree that we should look
at things - one at a time on their own merit - and
certainly question the media.

Then you may want to ask yourself what all this stuff means:

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Destiny-America-Manly-Hall/dp/1585426628
Why is it on US currency?
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
What is this about?

All this stuff is probably way too far down the rabbit hole though...
I never got to this stuff the day I started looking, it took a few years of looking, digging and questioning.

It's your own curiosity that gets you looking deeper into things that doesn't add up and eventually you just learn more and get wiser to it.
It's a process everyone has to do for themselves; or else stay blind to the ways of the world.

The Unholy Trinity of Frank, Weishaupt, and Rothschild
http://youtu.be/7nU8iZYrwuY
Revelation 2:9 Jewish people are NOT the House of Israel
http://youtu.be/v2DeU8Xaeq0
The Kabbalah—Foundation for Satanism, Theosophy, Freemasonry, Mormonism, Judaism
http://youtu.be/Zr_gZoCgI5U

Now look at what some Muslims believe:
Sheikh Imran Hosein - Beyond September 11
http://youtu.be/DeQ_wfUBjws
http://youtu.be/4mx3EUU5ZuQ

I already looked at all this stuff years ago, and I'm pretty well grounded; I mainly just focus on geopolitics now;

Look up 'Zionist Plan for the Middle East'
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%20Plan%20for%20the%20Middle%20East.pdf

Look up PNAC Rebuilding America's Defenses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century#Rebuilding_America's_Defenses_2

Look up Wesley Clark - 7 wars in 5 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUCwCgthp_E

Watch 'All Wars Are Bankers Wars'
http://youtu.be/5hfEBupAeo4

Look up Smedley Butler 'War is a Racket'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3lckqaSk0

- But all that stuff forms a kind of foundation for why I support or oppose and am always looking at the bigger picture.

Other than this I just try to look at all issues with merit and ethics.

These last few comments and links I've added would be too much for Foxy.
But for you Belly, I dare you, take the Red Pill.

Hey Foxy,
All this stuff is way too deep down the rabbit hole for you I'm sorry,
If you want something to maybe tweak your curiosity further, just try to just watch the Dinesh D'Souza video 'Hillary's America'.

This might help you understand another side;
What conservatives were waching in the lead up to the election.

AC,

It's a little over my head.

I've got to take things a bit slower.

But goodness me - look at you - and what you're
able to absorb. Whereas it's really doing my head in.
Fascinating stuff though.

The Matrix - Blue Pill or Red Pill?
http://youtu.be/OZnOO9GZId0

V for Vendetta: The Revolutionary Speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKvvOFIHs4k

armchair critic it will not surprise you I stay solid on my views, in fact believe it is only a matter of time before Trump falls, at the hands of his own party, remember this weeks leaks,almost every leak have come from within his party, after the fall his supporters will have questions for them selve about what they ever thought they saw in him

The 25th Amendment is being mentioned constantly
on the news - regarding Trump.
Can anyone explain to me exactly what it means?
From the little I've read - it's something about
the Vice-President being able to sack the President.
That sounds rather unbelievable.

Foxy it while unlikely to be used is a law meant to safeguard the country if the President is say sick, or for any reason unfit to continue in the job,the recent news that some very close to him are stalling his actions is not new it took place in the last days of Nixon,Donald will not see out his first term if ever that behind the scenes action stops

Dear Belly,

Thank You for explaining.

So is this an indication that people of his own party
are beginning to question his abilities?

Yes Foxy from his first day in office and in increasing numbers, many American newspapers are free to read, many on both sides of the debate, are biased and in the end not to be believed the San Francisco Chronicle is one of the better ones Washington post while harshly anti Trump, is the one behind the uncovering of Nixons Watergate,quite sure the man can not hold it together for two more years and even more so it will be his party not the Democrats [much like Turnbull] that brings him down

Dear Belly,

What has happened to the offices of our leaders?
Be it a Prime Minister or a President - times have
certainly changed when those positions were respected
and beyond reproach. Perhaps I'm remembering times
through rose-coloured glasses? Now it seems that politics
has come into play. It is very disturbing that a party
would look for ways to get rid of it's own leader - but
it looks like that's on the cards for what is happening in
the US as well. And that is disturbing.

Hey Armchair, found a video you might like... they might have banned Infowars from youtube, but you can still hear what Alex Jones would sound like as a folk singer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg

I lost it at 'literal vampire potbelly goblins'. Actual tears of laughter.

I knew it was coming Toni...
I was almost dreading coming on to look.
What do you have in store for me this morning?

Bloody Alex Jones..
Geez I though I was going to cop it worse...
You know even he probably wouldnt link together the stuff I have even just on those first 3 video, he rants and raves but doesn't always explain things well.

Hey Foxy,
I found a short video from the Guardian that explains.
http://youtu.be/owS-7YTYLHo

Hey Belly,
I haven't kept up on Trump news this week, but I did hear about some letter or op-ed or something they are trying to blame on Pence, due to the letter including a word obscure word only he used.

I don't know the truth of is but it's the type of bs one might expect at this time, heading into the midterms.

I think this all might be an attempt to frazzle Trump, make him look or act stupid.

-Anything to put someone off their game.

Maybe if they can make him paranoid and fire a few that would make him appear to be unhinged.

Belly if you want to find the scumbags look to bi-partisan issues where both sides are making money in cohoots.

I don't really have anything to add on how things might turn out.

Armchair critic you asked old mate so here is my version of what has taken place, someone within the highest group in the white house leaked to the Washington Post an interview saying a quite opposition to the worst of Trumps acts is taking place , the same has been said in a book to be released on this Tuesday, inferring the man is doing great damage to his country, remember from his own people, as I said to Foxy great American news papers can be read online, not all, on either side, tell the truth, try the Post and San Francisco Chronicle,Foxy, gave an hour of my time to manning a Labor stall [did not know it was to be there] people have never been more disconnected from politics,the common thread is they are all the same, not true in fact a cover for apathy, but telling,look at every Labor win, the ones from opposition,we had great people behind us great expectations and policy, ignore the voters at your peril.

Dear Belly,

Thanks for that.

Dear AC,

Thanks to you again.

I'm certainly got enough food for thought to last me for
quite a while on this subject.

Most of my links were not related to Steve Bannon sorry Foxy,
But I definitely think you and Belly should watch Hillary America The Sercret of the Democratic Party,
- don't worry about the average reviews, they're just trying to trick you into not watching it.
It was released prior to the last election.

Armchair critic no defense,, Hillary was the wrong candidate and a symptom of American politics becoming a reality TV show, handing the job down on both sides like a second hand shirt, has become the norm and powered Trumps win, weird electoral system weird country and boy weird voters, nothing new,, Obama got it right last night Trump is only a symptom of an America that for decades has bred hate and suspicion, we can only hope Trump by his very existence has restarted the heart and brain of both parties but do not bank on it

AC,

Thank You. I am very grateful to you for all your
efforts in providing to me this information.
I am particularly interested in getting a clearer
picture of Hilary Clinton. I gather that she
took an awful lot for granted - and hence she lost
the election.

Thanks again.

Dear Belly,

Right on the money.

Foxy I can expand on Hillary, she was the brighter of a team of two who in their youth got many on side, life with Bill who was always a womaniser could not have been good.
She, although he was a brilliant man, if tainted, was the power behind him always, she, quite wrongly ,thought she carried some of that power with her out of the white house, she got her position in Obama's time, in part as a substitute, for not beating him,she did not do a very good job,forget the rubbish about her being evil, she was what Bill was a brilliant but tainted woman, just that, leave out the brilliant and you get any human being that ever lived, not a woman deserving the foul words the demented gentleman in the white house uses on just about any one,, last America and the world needs engagement and understanding in politics so one day only the best will hold office

Hi Belly,
"Hillary was the wrong candidate and a symptom of American politics becoming a reality TV show, handing the job down on both sides like a second hand shirt, has become the norm and powered Trumps win..."

Well, whilst that's true, it's probably only true in the same way that there's probably some genuine criticisms of Trump.
(Though I'm not going along with things made up or blown out of proportion)

I was sitting here thinking about how Foxy once said she thought I was a Russian Troll, and how you got upset Belly because I once said that I think all you leftists are Communist collaborators; and also about how I support Trump.

I thought how can I impart my reasons on you with merit?
That I could help you understand why I say and think the things I do.
(Well that's a bloody can of worms isn't it)

Did you happen to see this comment I made on another thread?
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8439&page=0#265463

On that issue 'Communist collaborator' issue it seems that leftist parties are usually aligned with unions;
who are sympathetic to progressive socialist ideology;
which is a vehicle for communist agendas;
which is actually an ideology driven by the elite, not the downtrodden.

- The downtrodden who fall for this are the 'useful idiots'.
I see them all as people who fall for sympathetic causes designed to appeal to all of us, but will inadvertently drag us all to hell.

So the reason why I said what I said, is because I think you're a blind to the bigger picture; my real opposition is against 'Global Government' and the 'New World Order'.

Hey Foxy,
I watched Hillary's America again last night.

"Democrats are the party of exploitation, subjagation and theft. They blame the South or Republicans or even America for the horrible things they have done. They are the ones who are to blame. In addition to Indian removal and Slavery, the Democrats are also the party of the Black Codes, Segregation, Jim Crowe, The Klu Klux Klan, Lynchings, Forced Sterilisations and Sympathy for Fascism. Democrats today claim to be the party of progress, but where's the progress? For Blacks they've created new 'Urban Plantations'; for Indians 'Reservations' and for poor immigrants barrios, ghettos and slums. They put their voters in there, and they make sure they stay there. The only progress we see is more for them, more wealth, more power, more control over America"

You really should watch it, you'll see another side.

You may start to see something that I said earlier;
Democrats are not the party of poor people; they're the party keeping them poor.

I was trying to find an online video version of that book I linked earlier, still working on it.
I want you to realise the socialism and communism are designed by elites, to rule over the poor.

I'm trying to associate Socialism and Communism with the Global elites and the New World Order, as well as with Progressive, Liberal political parties (and causes) and specifically the Democrats.
Do you see?

I'm not necessarily against good ideas that have merit and I do try to look at the pro's and con's of all issues, including taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture.

I might add Foxy;
That it's only when you understand this;
That the Democrats are NOT the party of the poor, BUT the party keeping them poor, ONLY THEN you will able to make sense of those numbers...

- The unemployment numbers which showed that prospects for Blacks and Hispanics has improved under Trump.

What was going on?
Look this up - Cloward and Piven
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

Have you heard me often comment on weaponising Democracy - of using its flaws to destroy it and bring in something else?

It's all about the bigger picture.

AC and Belly,

Thanks for all your inputs and for keeping this thread
going. I've learned a great deal from all of this. You've
opened the door for me to want to learn even more - so
I'm going to keep on searching for more information.
I'm finding it very rewarding.

Thanks again to you two for setting me on the right path.
For me this thread has now run its course.

See you on another discussion.

Hey Belly,
The Whitehouse mole who released the anonymous 'lodestar' email was Fiona Hill.
You heard it here first, expect more in the corporate media in the coming days.

AC hold you to that! do you think it will end? hold me to this *it will be the Republicans not Democrats who bring Trump down*

Armchair critic went back and read your link, how do I tell you why I am as anti communist as you.
You could never understand my life, why I as a callow youth fell for the fraud communism is.
Hungry people clutch all types of straws and hungry is true.
We worked, even as children, just to eat, by my mid teens I saw communism was just another group living on the back of others work.
Bit like your Trump,Socialism never worked, but came very near it in Switzerland.
So I find myself in the ruling right of the ALP we call it center unity.
You will not like it,but with every thing that makes me me, I think you and every Trump supporter are victim of the greatest conspiracy ever inflicted on a country.
One of us old mate is wrong, it may be me, are you able to say it may be you? regards

To Armchair Critic- The information you're able to come up with is amazing and well researched. I just wish I could keep up! Thanks.

Hi Belly,
I know you're not a communist.
But I tend to label many who support Labor the Greens and any party whom I believe sells the nation out as collaborators to this globalist communist conspiracy.
I'm generalising, but I do think you're unwitting collaborators.
But you really shouldn't take any offense to it, no more than I might might take to being called a racist and a rapist etc, by those on the left and in the ranks of the party you support.

How will it end?
I suppose if Republicans (I don't necessarily support those Rhinos) can retain the House, Democrats will be in disarray for years.
If Democrats win the house, expect a push towards removing Trump under the 25th Amendment.
My feelings are that bar some big scandal, mass shooting or what have you Republicans should retain the house, (though I'm not sure what polls and statistics are saying) but the one thing I definitely can't dismiss is Democrats propensity towards electoral fraud.

What's the truth of everything?
Go check the front cover of The Economist for clues.

I hold views armchair critic that are not worth sharing with you about your mindset.
You are in all probability a good person, differences of opinions are not reason to think otherwise
But my thoughts do include that the far right has a conspiracy working for it we must confront.
They wave the big stick at anything they dislike and give credence to a leftist plot from a left that in truth never existed
This phantom left and its phantom wants and wishes empowers an inability to see the world as it truly is for that reason the new right is to be feared far more than any left that ever existed my perfect world is a Capitalism with a heart one.

Steve Bannon releases new film'Trump at War'.
http://youtu.be/ThJTRGiXzHc

Im really not too concerned by the names supporters of the left use against those who don't agree with them Belly.

armchair critic mate that was funny!
this lefty, anyone left of Trump is lefty see,s the words the demented blokes followers throw around do not know if I will be around for his next election but will for the midterms, thankfully Germany and France are doing a good job of being the heads of the free world
we shall talk post mid terms about the silly old man, if he is not locked up by then regards

Holy crap.
You really are a bloody communist.
"thankfully Germany and France are doing a good job of being the heads of the free world"

You speak out of both sides of your mouth.
On this thread you say France and Germany are world leaders.
On others you acknowledge issues related to immigration.
Which do you actually support?
Do you even know?

What bloody difference was the NAZI's - National Socialism -
To the same kind of - Globalist Socialism - that your supportive of?

Thoughts: US Democrats race-based identity politics has nothing to do with the bullying of victimisation of minority groups, and everything to do with undermining the existing status quo.

To dislodge or disempower the traditional western white male nationalist leadership;
- For the purposes of sabotaging our nations into the New World Order.

Open Borders and Immigrants
Change the People = Change the Government

Progressive Agenda - Indoctrination of future socialist leaders.
- Marxism taught and built into courses at University level.
Where are we progressing to?
What's the end goal?

Empower Women
Empower Minority Groups
Empower LGBTI
Empower Climate Change agenda.

Disempower Christianity
Disempower Family
Disempower Traditional Western White Male Nationalist Leadership.

Men (traditionally) make rational decisions.
Women make emotional decisions.

Look at Leyenhjelm and Hanson Young.
Look at Gillard screaming mysogyny.

Hey Canem Malum,
"The information you're able to come up with is amazing and well researched. I just wish I could keep up! Thanks."

They're just YouTube videos, it's not like I did all the research myself.
- But if you put the right videos together, it starts to build a bigger picture.
Did you go through all of it?

If I took a step back and asked what was missing from what I laid out, then it would be an overview of all the think-tanks, round-table groups, and focus groups, special interests groups, political lobbyists etc.

It's here that 'conspiracy' meets 'reality'.

WTO, IMF, World Bank etc.
Council on Foreign Relations, Brookings Institute etc.
UN, UNESCO, Bilderberg, Davos, World Economic Forum etc.

Love the reaction! xenophobia but love your ability to hurl the long dead communist body on the table at tea time just to get reaction.
While we wait for the real world leadership, the one that will bury us China/Russia it is clear we can not deal with Trumps America.
That after just near two years apart from Russia, few want to, RUSSIA that once home of communism now has a new Teddy Bear it walks and talks and does what it is told that Teddy is Donald Trump

Well your thoughts about France and Germany tells everything there is to know;
Of course you're a 'Collaborator' in every sense of the word, the fact you don't realise it makes you a 'useful idiot'.
I'm not trying to be offensive, but if that's your position, then that's my opinion.

I went to bed considering how much you might like it if I had a jar with a nesting female redback spider in it, and I opened the lid of that jar in your house so that all the baby redback spiders would run all through your house.

I don't know, maybe you'd enjoy living in the kind of environment the native people of Germany and France are living in.

"That after just near two years apart from Russia, few want to, RUSSIA that once home of communism now has a new Teddy Bear it walks and talks and does what it is told that Teddy is Donald Trump"

Now you're acting like a petulant child, with Trump Derangement Syndrome.
By the way, RUSSIA is NOT the home of Communism.
It's New York, and it was in the videos I posted.
But you wouldn't know that, because you think you already know everything, right?

That's why you want to stay dumb, push your outdated living-in-the-bloody-past version of The Labor Party upon others, whilst marching us all to George Soros hell.

What is the Aims of Communism?
- To create a 'Social Revolution'; and you're helping them (you moron).

I honestly don't think you can see any of the US issues for what they actually are.
I think you believe the narrative given to you, but don't understand the issues at a more complex level.
You're obviously narrow-minded and easily manipulated by (or believe) the news you watch, but you probably don't know any better, never knew anything else except to trust the news.

90% of news is propaganda, with bias, omissions and selective editing, as well as outright lies and deceipt.
Without a sense of judgment of whats true in the news cycle, you're up the creek without a paddle.

Armchair Critic- "Did you go through all of it?"

Answer- Sorry. I watched some of them. I do intend to. I learned a lot about the Euromaiden- and I have you to thank for that. I wish I had more time- time is gold.

Hey Canem Malum,
I watched Infowars earlier this morning and now I'm catching up on some YouTube channels I watch.
This is what I'm watching at the moment: 'Spy Rings Lead To Weapons Ratlines'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-R3gK_Oas8&list=UUrQ-wHKVi0JDWjQGcuoYnew&index=3

arm chair critic RUOK is there some medication you have over looked? you by your every word, and I forgive you, hold no grudge give me reason to ask that question
See I am as far from communist as you are, but as is my right see America in very real trouble openly racist, war mongering ,run by a lunatic who has conned you. yes Germany and France possess the worlds moral values now, not a Trump American right of reality group.
And proud to stand with the American DEMOCRATS as they toil to return that country to one the world can trust again PS most medicines are not suppositorys

Hey Belly,

No, I'm not on the meds, I'm fine mate.
And no, I don't hold any grudges, this is a forum for opinions.
All I offer is my opinion.

Lets say you and Foxy were both my next door neighbours, one living on each side.
I'd still invite you both to the BBQ, and you'd get your sausage and rissole, maybe even a bit of steak if I was feeling generous, and your bread roll and potato bake.

But after I've dug a beer or the wine out I'd probably be telling you both that I think some of your ideas on things are totally crap, and that I think your selling the country out.

But I'd still be neighbourly and treat you with respect as a fellow Aussie.
"Hey Stalin, wanna come over for a beer and watch the footy?"

I don't want to judge you too harshly Belly.
Do people think I like being honest and an a**hole all the time?

- But you are a shill for the New World Order whether you realise it or not, the Democrats are selling the country out to the Chinese that's why US economic numbers look so good because Trump stopped it.
And you really don't understand all the complex US or global issues as well as you need to.

I gave you the links, there's nothing I can do if your not curious and refuse to follow a path that would lead to becoming better informed.

I will ridicule and take the piss; as is the Aussie custom.

Hey Belly,
If you think I need meds, then watch my news.
Click to 1h55m and watch 10 minutes.

You'll learn that EVERYTHING I'M SAYING is true.
http://www.real.video/5833732505001

You see I use the internet for what its for, actually looking things up and finding things out, not just buying into whatever crap they try to force feed me with.

Now fast forward the video to 2h17m.

Paul Watson discusses a UK story.
http://www.infowars.com/uk-police-tell-citizens-to-report-offensive-comments-even-if-theyre-not-hate-crimes/

Now I want you to use your brain and connect a few dots.
Is that possible?

Compare that story to this story from last year.
Half of all crimes are not investigated because police focus on cases that are 'a priority for them and not victims'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2364796/Half-crimes-investigated-police-focus-cases-priority-victims.html
'Not practical' for Met Police to investigate all crime
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41633205

Now watch this:
The End of London. Prepare Yourself.
http://youtu.be/8ApGNrQk94E

No go back up the page to the link I posted that said 'Cloward and Piven'.
These are the types of ideas which use democracy to destroy us from within.
Now tell me are they not trying to do exactly the same thing 'overload the system' with crime in London?

You people ALL NEED to BLOODY WELL WAKE UP.

To Armchair Critic- Thanks for the link. I watched it but it'll take a while to digest. Seems like standard spy funding methods- If spying is necessary and therefore capital raising is necessary- and you have people of a certain skill sets to do the fund raising- it's perhaps somewhat inevitable that criminal activity will occur in spy activities. The question is in this dirty but necessary world whether they are working to make it better or worse. What's your view Armchair Critic?

armchair critic I spend about two hours reading other things on the net daily,from day one with the old commodore 64 it has been my daily swim, had my years in the conspiracy theory muddied waters can quote who owns the banks and hence controls the world off by heart
Just watching what you want me to will not change my views,but every day I live I learn, so will wander one day and watch.
Live American news on ten this morning, watched the interview with the author of the leak from within Trumps white house, seems clear to me the current white house is the result of a conspiracy, one that continues to hide the truth.

I wouldn't take anything too seriously from a channel that considers 'the project' to be a news program.
You're buying narrative and conjecture.
The same bs that had you all thinking Hillary's win was in the bag.
It's not news, it's an attempt to manipulate public opinion; espionage; sedition; an attempt to undermine the office of the president of the US.. a part of a plan to sell him as paranoid and unfit remove Trump from office under the 25th.. a concerted effort by bias colluding media to create news, not report it.

I agree totally and honestly with your opinion armchair critic, the only difference is you are describing my views of the right of reality and their media lap dogs
AND we have about sixty more sleeps till the mid terms take the fool in the white house down

Let me ask you something...
How do you feel about cheating?
Do you believe in winning at all costs?
Or do you believe in ethics, that winning doesn't count if you cheat?

Because your mob cheats to win at any cost.

R U O K? honestly mate that bitter refusal to see two party preferred half of this country vote for my party.
The truth we not your side bought about banking reform and opened this country to world trade.
We federally and in states preserved National parks and yes the Franklin river
arm chair critic do you understand your views are a minority even in this conservative government?
the incoming LABOR government, will like every past one,, bring true reform and hope while your views only offer pain division and hopelessness
A tip, in resorting to insults or questioning your opponents ability to think you both over estimate your own thoughts and underestimate your opponent that way leads to defeat

To Belly through the chair- The Franklin Dam protests (admirable as they were) are a long way from the Greens of today.

As is the Liberal Party from the one Menzies
founded.

I wasn't talking about the Labor party, I was talking about the Democrats, but since you thought I was talking about Labor I can prove that as well anyway.

http://www.billmitchell.org/White_Paper_1945/index.html

Looks like evidence your party are known liars for the better part of the last century...

I remember when I was a kid and Peter Beatie proclaimed it would only be a few years and the gateway bridge would be free to cross.
After about 10 years I realised all pillows especially your lot are liars.

Dishonest.

I decided back then 20 years ago that I'd start believing what politicians say the day I can cross that bridge for free.

Of course it has a 100 year lease now, and I will NEVER cross that bridge for free.

Your mob only ever had lies from what I can see.

And what are these 'reforms' you speak of?
Teaching kids about blowjobs?
Transgender dunnies?
Identity politics?
Diversity?
Inclusion?

You people live in fairyland.

"The truth we not your side bought about banking reform and opened this country to world trade."

This might be something difficult for you to figure out about me.
I don't actually support a political party;
I don't support the left / right paradigm, or the gang mentality.
I look at the pro's and con's of issues on their own merits.

When you say 'my side' you don't understand that I can't be defined that way.
I'm against the New World Order, and One World Government.
Often the left / right paradigm represents two wings of the same bird.
Certainly so when both parties support the US and her wars of exceptionalism imperialism and hegemony.

I choose my preferred party based on the sum total of all the underlying issues, and I'll quite happily crap on the people I supported if I think they are doing the wrong thing.
Take Hanson and Trump as an example.

I don't support Trump's Pro-Israel wars.
Even though I oppose multiculturalism, Muslims and increased immigration in this country, I don't support Israel's actions regards the Palestinians.
I stand on the Palestinian side of the issue because I think it's the right side ethically;
It's not a Muslim issue, it's a human rights issue.
I supported Trump for his domestic policies, not his foreign ones.

Pauline, well I love what she does providing pushback against the incoming masses that think they can start ruling the joint the second they get off the boat, and I'm thankful and supportive of her for that.
- But often she comes across as being a little 'bat sh*te crazy'.

And I don't deny there's a core reason for some of the lefts gripes.
Often things aren't exactly fair, but the way the left goes about those issues and blows everything out of proportion only makes things worse, more divisive.
But 'the big picture' is their parties represent a march towards One World Government.

When you can understand what I oppose, then you'll understand what side I'm on.
- And why I call others out for what they believe.

Oh and BTW, 'Pillows' was supposed to be 'Pollies'.
Sorry, it's hard to get used to checking words that you know how to spell; Google spellchecker often defaults a word to a different word even though the word you're using is valid (or valid enough).
- I suppose 'Pollies' might not exactly be a correct word, but it's good enough for me, and I prefer to use some slang here and there, it's just how I am.
We all have our preferred writing styles.

It's so annoying, (google spellchecker) and a pet hate of mine, when using my phone to comment on the forum.
Sorry for the confusion.

So very glad you like your self so much arm chair critic every one needs some one to love.
The biggest single party primary vote is the ALP remember it is a two party coalition that governs us

Theres something else I want to say.

I don't only see you progressives selling the nation out to One World Government (Modeled on the Chinese System)
http://qz.com/1225347/xi-jinping-says-chinas-one-party-authoritarian-system-can-be-a-model-for-the-world/
I also think that for all your talk of multiculturalism that you are actually destroying our very culture itself.

Did you see my comment earlier where I said if we were neighbours "I might come to your back fence and yell out "Hey Stalin, wanna come for a beer and watch some footy?"
By the same token you would be able to come to my back fence and yell out "Hey Tinfoil Hat, wanna come and try some of these imported European beers I just picked up and watch the game?"

- To which I'd probably say "I'm an Aussie mate, I don't go for that imported Eurotrash", (then I'd come straight over and try it anyway.)

You see real Australian culture included a kind of low level no holds barred 'take the mickey out of your mates', which included RACISM.

- And eventually that created an environment where both parties not only learned to accept the other; but also understood the others reasoning and point of view.

- Where they were coming from, what they believed in.

This was what made us unique, made us as unified a nation as any multicultural nation could be; the country that the left now proclaims as the 'most successful multicultural country in the world'.

Not this 'pc diversity crap' which has the result of polarization and divisiveness.
(That's is the result, because that is the design - it's no accident)

I don't know why I look at the pro's and con's of things and see things differently to others, maybe sometimes at at deeper more complex level, but I do.

'The biggest single party primary vote is the ALP remember it is a two party coalition that governs us.'

Imported voters will always vote for the left.
29% of this nations citizens weren't born here.
It's no more a voice of the people that it is the voice of the imported people.
Or with Union contributions, and their political leanings - a vote for communism.
That's all unions ever were.
Nurturing the future Proliteriat into social revolution.

Not only that Global tech companies that monopolise the West are actively shutting down conservative speech, denying books a platform to be sold on and many other underhanded tactics to socially engineer our society.
Obama used the IRS to do it.

If only you watched the videos I added you might have half a clue what's really going on and you might also realise I'm just too cluey to not see through narratives and agendas.

//After about 10 years I realised all pillows especially your lot are liars.//

Yes, of course they are. 'Twas ever thus. I'm pretty sure that when the Athenians invented democracy in about 500 BC, their politicians were liars. Iceland has the oldest parliament in the world, the Althing, which was founded in 930 AD. I'm pretty sure their parliamentarians been lying ever since. It's what politicians do. In fact, it's what everybody does... and given that most people aren't deeply evil despite their tale-telling, I'm not sure it's all that big of a deal most of the time.

//I'm against the New World Order, and One World Government.//

Yep, and you keep getting it wrong. For some reason you insist on viewing it through a political lens, but as I've explained before it's not Commies vs. the World or even Capitalists vs. the World; it's alien invaders vs. the World. Little green men from Mars. Although in this case, not all that little, from the Thuban system in the constellation Draco, and not green except in their pure form. When hybridised, they're very hard to distinguish from real people.

This has all been well researched and documented by British journalist David Icke. More to the point, I myself am a renegade hybrid so you're getting it straight from the lizard's mouth, as it were. But despite having these facts explained to you before, you continue to irrationally dismiss Icke's research into the subject. What's wrong, are the truth bombs he drops too hot for you to handle?

//Teaching kids about blowjobs?//

Jesus, that's a worry. How thick are kids these days if they need to be TAUGHT about blowjobs, for heaven's sake? In my day we were able to figure that one out for ourselves. I mean, it's not exactly rocket science.

//Transgender dunnies?//

Yeah, it's just weird having two people of different sexes use the same toilet, right? Caused all sorts of headaches when I moved; the old place had two WC's, easy enough to affix a 'blokes' and 'sheilas' sign to the appropriate door.

But the new place only has one loo, so against all laws of god and nature the john will have to be shared. In order to retain some semblance of sanity, it has been decided that alternate day roster will be used, with the toilet being for 'blokes' one day and 'sheilas' the next. Still seems a bit perverted to me, but it's the best that can be done under the circumstances.

//Diversity?//

Beats little boxes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUwUp-D_VV0

//Inclusion?//

Beats bullying and ostracism... unless you're into that sort of thing, I guess.

//Pauline, well I love what she does providing pushback against the incoming masses that think they can start ruling the joint the second they get off the boat//

Wait, so your objection is to people born in countries other than Australia attaining positions of power, but you have no problem whatsoever with literal lizard people from another planet sitting in your Parliament, as long as they're Aussie lizard people? You humans are weird.

//I don't know why I look at the pro's and con's of things and see things differently to others, maybe sometimes at at deeper more complex level, but I do.//

//I'm just too cluey to not see through narratives and agendas.//

Now, to put my serious hat on for a moment.... mate, you don't sound well at all. If I'm to be quite honest, your the inflated sense of grandiosity you exhibit in combination with your tinfoil hat rubbish suggests to me mental illness more than it does any particular genius on your part.

I recommend you speak with a mental health professional; if I'm wrong and you're fine they'll send you on your way and you can rub my nose in it; if you are experiencing mental illness they'll be able to help with you that and believe me, even if you think you're fine and that you don't need any help, getting an accurate diagnosis and effective treatment for mental illness will improve your quality of life. What do you have to lose?

ACC I get taking the mickey re read my posts, and yes jump over the fence any time.
Will change nothing about my views or yours