It seems that any mention of a certain religion is forbidden, even when it is an obvious candidade to explain the atrocity commited by Faisal Hussain. Why? The press, as usual, has no clue beyond the unverified "mental health" explanation offered by the family.
https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqWggKIlRDQklTT1RvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1Npd0tFUWo1NktYY2pJQU1FY1JYYWNndFZYdlZFaGRVYjNKdmJuUnZJSE5vYjI5MGFXNW5JR2QxYm0xaGJpZ0FQAQ?hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen

Then they (our elites) wonder why this happens and happens again and again. The problem is not really one of "gun control", I think, or even mental health. It will get worse.

I could be that obvious candidate, see while despising the faiths worst beliefs and there are many, and knowing the terrorist filth miss using it are better of dead, it is my sad duty to over and over again, say it is not all, not even near all from that faith how we need to confront, just as it is not every Catholic who carried out acts of pedophilia, not every Christian, who like that Church in America, one of thousands of CULTS pretending to be Churches, that sends insults to dead soldiers families,the problem clearly in my view, is one faiths followers declaring war on other faiths, all in the many names of many Gods who never existed

Maybe because such actions are strictly forbidden by his religion?

Or maybe because when people kill in the name of Islam they generally make it clear what they're doing, whereas this guy's motives are still a mystery.

Why no mention of the religion? Maybe because secularism and Islam are both death ideologies. They use each other as useful idiots.

Oh yes,as usual his motives can't be determined. It'll remain like that until the story is old.

Perhaps the fact that he frequented ISIS websites and recently visited Afghanistan and Pakistan might offer a clue as to motive?

//Perhaps the fact that he frequented ISIS websites and recently visited Afghanistan and Pakistan might offer a clue as to motive?//

Or maybe it could be his lengthy history of mental illness?

Nah, that couldn't possibly be right. It's a fact well known, to those who know it well, that certain ethnicities are entirely untroubled by the scourge of mental illness.

The title of this post was supposed to be "Why no 'I' or 'M' words in stories about the Toronto shooting", but I guess the editor did not like the quotation marks so it cut the title to "why no". Oh well.

The fact is that the media constantly refuses to associate Islam or Muslims with the evil done by Muslims because of what Islam teaches. One can read dozens of stories about this horrible event, but there is hardly never a mention of Islam or Muslims, even if those words would be the first to come to mind in a case like this.

It is not just denial, it is dishonesty on a grand scale.

Aidan, and who told you that "such actions are strictly forbidden by his religion"? News to me. Would you kindly provide a verse, a complete verse, rather than the usual "to kill an innocent person is to kill all of humanity" that Muslims love to quote, or misquote.

"Or maybe it could be his lengthy history of mental illness?"

Could be. It seems that almost everyone who kills on behalf of ISIS these days is determined to have a mental illness. Obviously thinking you're gunna be rewarded with a plethora of virgins for killing infidels is insane.

OTOH wanting to shack up with a bunch of women is also a sign of mental illness.

According to The National Post - Federal Public
Safety Minister Ralph Goodale stated that there
was no connection between Faisal Hussain, 29,
and national security. Hussain did not have a
serious criminal record nor any significant
affiliation with any gangs. Hussain's family
expressed their deepest condolences to the victims
and their families for their son's horrific actions.

They said their son suffered mental health challenges
and had struggled with untreatable psychosis and
depression most of his life.

The National Post asks - "Where does that leave those
who wish to point to a cause to explain Hussain's
actions if only to confirm some belief or bias or fear
of their own?"

"Is he Muslim? Yes. Does he know Muslim extremists?
Probably. Is he mentally ill? Probably. Does he have
access to guns in his neighbourhood? Yes."

But be real careful what road you go down. We may never
know what was going on in his mind.

"In other words Faisal Hussain was complex...
And one night he
fired upon children and teenagers and people having coffee.
And now that is the ghastly central fact of his life."

The fox is bewildered.

"The moon will be confounded, and the sun ashamed; for the Lord of hosts will reign on Mount Zion ...

And Buddha tells of three things that cannot be long hidden:

The sun, the moon and the “truth”.

Shame on you red fox.

Back to the henhouse to mesmerise the chickens with you!

Hey Foxy,
Why do I get the feeling a Muslim could hypothetically detonate a nuke in an Australian state capital city, killing tens of thousands and unless they found a definite link to a known terrorist group they would say he was not a terrorist, but a lone nut with mental issues?

Why? Because that's what they WOULD say.

Thered be tens of thousands dead, tens of thousands more getting around where their skin dripping off, and there would also be some liberal apologist on tv saying "Well you know he was suffering from anxiety and depression, you know and he was having a really difficult time feeling like he was accepted into the community"

They would here is all towards some 'sick grovelling apologist opinion' where they'd imply it was really all our fault, and he was just an innocent victim because we didn't pay out the red carpet enough for him.

- This is exactly the kind of liberal daily BS you can expect in 2018 -

'They would herd us all' was what I meant to say...

Who hates spellchecker and who loves it?
The damn things changes words on you even if your words don't have spelling errors.
Grrrr... Geez it really annoys me.
- And then it changes your next word based on the last word that changed for you.
Sorry everyone if that earlier sentence didn't make any sense.

AI = Artificial Idiot

Moral to the story: Don't buy a driverless car!

So this immunity to mental illness that Muslims are apparently blessed with... anyone you know if there's been much research done on it? Seems to me that if they could figure out the underlying mechanism, it might be possible to develop some really effective treatments for mental illness and save a lot of suffering.

develop some really effective treatments for mental illness and save a lot of suffering.
Toni lavis,
Sounds fairly logical but eventually the Toni lavis's of this world would soon find fault with it as they do with all other measures based on logic.

Hold that thought Toni Lavis.

Psychopaths are not generally considered under the heading of mental illness.
Should we split hairs till the cows come home?

Look up “ fox in the henhouse syndrome” . Kill one kill many. Comes under the heading of economy.
No mental illness here. This is Mother Nature at work, (in strange ways as she does).

My answer is this: a mandatory life sentence for possession of a fire arm, applicable to all.

diver dan,
having a firearm is not as severe a breach of the Law than bureaucrats who don't do their job.

ISIS claimed credit for the suicide attack which, according to the currently approved meme, proves they have a mental illness...or something.

//ISIS claimed credit for the suicide attack//

Didn't they claim credit for the Las Vegas shooting as well? I wouldn't necessarily believe everything ISIS say... I reckon they make stuff up.

//which, according to the currently approved meme, proves they have a mental illness...or something.//

No, not every mass shooter has a history of mental illness. Stephen Paddock, the alleged ISIS-affiliated terrorist behind the Las Vegas shooting, didn't have a history of mental illness.

Faisal Hussain did. According to his family - and I'd assume they'd know, having lived with the bloke - he had a history of psychosis. Please note that psychosis and psychopathy are two very different diagnoses, despite the similarity in spelling. Here's a brief educational video about psychosis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGP_7cEP5cI

The more you know...

Most psychotic people are harmless, but that isn't always the case. Sometimes psychosis can lead to violence. I recall a story I read years ago where somebody attacked their partner whilst in the grip of psychosis, believing that they were possessed by a demon of some sort. If Hussain was experiencing a psychotic episode - which seems at least plausible given a history of psychosis - then god knows what he was thinking when he carried out his attack.

Look, for all I know the guy was a fully paid up member of ISIS. I'm sure further details will emerge in the future. But at this early stage, to so readily dismiss the possibility that his mental health might have had aught to do with it.... well, that seems to me like its own peculiar form of madness.

But maybe I've been misreading my Sherlock Holmes books all these years, and Holmes' timeless advice on the art of deduction is to start by eliminating the possible.

Toni Lavis..

Holmes' timeless advice on the art of deduction is to start by eliminating the possible.

Eliminate the necessity to eliminate the possible first. Since everything is possible, eliminating the need for elimination of all possibilities is the easy option.

So what does it matter what his mental state was? Plain evil was the outcome.

He's dead, three cheers!

Individual

*"diver dan,
having a firearm is not as severe a breach of the Law than bureaucrats who don't do their job."*

You'd better enlarge on that one, it's too crude for comment!

//Holmes' timeless advice on the art of deduction is to start by eliminating the possible.

Eliminate the necessity to eliminate the possible first. Since everything is possible, eliminating the need for elimination of all possibilities is the easy option.//

O.... kay.

No, it isn't. I recommend less time spent devoted to whatever substance(s) you abuse, and more time at your local library.

"It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
- A.C. Doyle, 'The Adventure of the Beryl Coronet'

too crude for comment!
diver dan,
It won't appear crude to you anymore once you grasp the truth.

The killer quite possibly had poor mental health and, if this can be proven there should be nothing wrong with saying so. However, the conversation needs to focus on increasing people's understanding of how this condition developed and what interventions might have worked.

I also dislike the way poor mental health can't be used as an excuse when a criminal is white and male, because of fear of stigmatising the mentally ill. However, when the criminal is from any other ethnic group, it is perfectly OK to talk about poor mental health. In rare cases where female criminals are acknowledged, any excuse under the sun is OK.

Australia has the same policies as police in the UK.
Australia will become what the UK is now and these videos prove it beyond any doubt.
http://youtu.be/LqY4Z1fTrMc
http://youtu.be/79TWaRCYPao

*"It won't appear crude to you anymore once you grasp the truth."*
Individual....
I'm awaiting your "truth".

Armchair Critic.
Tommy a Robinson should be applauded for displaying the courage of his convictions.
But it's also obvious the police have a priority in keeping the peace. Cronulla riots spring to mind.
There are no bennifits to anyone in that outcome.

Sections of society may not be happy with Islam the religion, but putting the Muslim population on the defensive is counterproductive. Peace is far preferable.
What price a few Islamic Mosques in the city. Ultimately, does that do anybody harm?
I think in Christain terms it's called freedom of religion.

And obviously Muslims who break the law end up in jail like anybody else, otherwise there would be no Muslims in there.

Tommy Robinson will be dead for police and government policies you obviously support Diver Dan.
You and others like you are actively trying to kill him.
I don't think you watched the video's I posted, because I believe any fair minded Aussie would come to a different conclusion if they had've watched them.

Would you like me to take the time to define that what I saw in those videos and that (in police and government policy) which I object to and that which I am alleging you support.

It intrigues me how the collaborators ignorantly sell this country out believing they have the moral high ground, when they don't.

//I also dislike the way poor mental health can't be used as an excuse when a criminal is white and male//

Ummm, no, poor mental health has been a factor in a number of other mass shootings. Remember this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting

The white male shooter in that case had history of mental illness, and the defence unsuccessfully tried an insanity defence. Psychiatrists who were called as witnesses testified that he was mentally ill at the time of the shooting, but not legally insane.

As opposed to John Hinckley Jr., the bloke who shot Reagan. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan

Mark David Chapman's defence planned to use an insanity defence, but he instructed them that he wished to plead guilty. Court-appointed psychiatrists concluded that he was delusional, but competent to stand trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman

I can dig up a lot more examples of white male shooters whose crimes have been influenced by their mental illnesses, but you should get the point by now: mental illness does not discriminate on the grounds of ethnicity.

Armchair Critic.

Yep I watched the videos right through. I was impressed with Tommy, but not the chick. I don't think the two are in the same league.
Both are what I would call rabble rousers.
Since Tommy had many Muslim friends, including four that attended his wedding, it is difficult to get a fix on where he stands. Either your for them or against them.
Why would you think a collection of rabble rousers assailing a Mosque, would be acceptable? It's not quite frankly.

Don't recall you objecting to Chinese immigration in the same vain either, should I be cynical about that?

front page of New Dehli times today says it all. We are following the same path. Every terrorist attack the pollies and media will either deny it or dumb enough to ask why.

https://www.newdelhitimes.com/canadas-politicians-are-in-denial-on-terrorism/

runner we know! from every side of the debate about terrorism we know, we see with our own eyes Muslim terrorism murders Muslims, those who hold to a different view of Islam than them, us included are murdered,in truth every one including Islam itsself suffers because, for some at least, that faith needs new definition, to remind those within it in the end every human is from the same source,we can not read the minds of the few, they do not stand out in a crowd, we and our leaders do not stand listlessly by and let them do as they wish, not for the first time our brave troops fight some one who can blend in with the people surrounding them, we never stop fighting them, and should be thankful our best asset in the fight is other Muslims