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The Peppa Pig Crisis

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>>Even the cartoon character Peppa Pig pushes a weird feminist line that would be closer to the hearts of Labor’s Handbag Hit Squad than the pre-school audience it is aimed at.>>

(Piers Akerman in the Daily Telegraph)

Until reading this piece I had never heard of Peppa Pig. After watching three Peppa Pig videos, freely available on the ABC website, I am now ready to give my expert opinion on this weighty matter.

Piers Akerman UNDERSTATES the gravity of the Peppa Pig crisis.

Firstly, Peppa Pig is homophobic. In not one of the videos I watched was there a family with two mommies or two daddies.Shouldn't Peppa herself have two mommies instead of a boring mommy-daddy combo?

Better still, shouldn't Peppa's mommy be a single parent who conceived her with the aid of IVF and who combines perfect motherhood with a successful career as a Greens senator?

The choice of a pig as the main character points to extreme Islamophobia. As if that were not enough there is even a dog family. Both dogs and pigs are haram.

The anti-choice bias of the program is glaringly obvious. I did not see even one childless woman explaining the joys of abortion to Peppa.

The blatant RACISM of the program DISGUSTED and SICKENED me. By using animal characters to play human roles there is never a need to introduce "people of colour" into the program. All those pale faced toddlers lapping up the ABC's homophobic, anti-abortion, anti-single-mother, anti-green, racist propaganda are free to imagine a pale faced world.

And if you don't get the point show me one instance of a female pig on the program wearing a chador let along the full burqa!

The program is also unscientific. Imagine teaching impressionable kids you can squeeze four elephants into a little canoe. How can you expect kids to understand the physics of global warming if you fill their little minds with such unscientific guff?

ABC, pull this racist, homophobic, anti-gay, Islamophobic, anti-science program NOW!

Stop corrupting the minds of our children.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 14 December 2013 1:08:15 PM
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The more I think about Peppa Pig the more enraged I become.

Do we ever see pigs wearing tsitsit and yarmulke's putting on tephillin? We do not. Now what does that tell us about bias at the ABC?

I'll bet Peppa Pig has never seen the inside of mosque.

Peppa's parents take her boating but do they ever take her to a demo in front of a Max Brenner chocolate shop?

The ABC must remove this right wing filth from their program line-up immediately.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 14 December 2013 2:18:07 PM
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Sorry but in quoting that limp wristed ranting and raging fool you hit rock bottom.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 14 December 2013 4:33:12 PM
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It would have been fairer to link to the article. Here it is,

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/tired_abc_needs_to_broaden_its_horizons/

The line taken out of context was a minor bit of humorous hyperbole.

Of course it is easier to mock humour (and others have predictably done that as well), than confront the very serious concerns about the ABC. Examples could be,

<ABC chairman Jim Spigelman has acknowledged that members of the ABC collective have recently been urged to “broaden their range of contacts and of people they approach for advice, as well as broadening the range of material they consume”>

and,

<ABC chairman Jim Spigelman, who has questioned some of the topics chosen for reporting by the ABC, as well as the content of the ABC’s reports. Such is the concern at board level at the frequency of these allegations of a lack of impartiality (which Spigelman does not accept is systematic) that the ABC issued a so-called “guidance note” on impartiality in July.>
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 14 December 2013 4:41:44 PM
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in..ab-origonal society..you cant eat your ancestral..totem

so cannibalism..is bad..most itsw/just..so..un-kopsha
so....lets try to fill-in..some blanks
with a fairly sorry/story..

satan..and half..the sons of god..[fallen-angels]=menche
fell to earth..THEY decided..to create..subhuman..[sub-angelics][huh-men][unter menche][golemm]..and..send them..a written..message.. they blog on..command..ever since

so..just for fun..they hybridized..an ape/with a pig
and created adam..[you..dont..believe..me?]

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-11-30/science/44595591_1_humans-chimpanzees-traits

my..guide..s assure me..that was the moral..behind noah
and the extinction..of..the hybreds..[ancient..gmo]..that made ,man

note please..the importance of the..GMO/apple....and getting kicked from..the garden..its all/there once the truth becomes clear

so..there you are..steven...now you know the full story
dont it all..make sense..?..
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 14 December 2013 6:53:41 PM
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anyhow this realm..is satans realm..
[him..and his blogging golem]

it is after all..his realm/...and clay-men..[golum]..do..as their told
[just put writing..into..their..in-box....and watch/the globalist colonizing...blogging golem..roll it out globally.

but would you rather..the fairy tales..told to children
or as paul/said..the meat..

or are you...yet..even..
or now HUMANE*..like our father..

or more like the despoiling....glay/gmo..golem's old
grand=ancestral..matriarchal..sow..or the ancestral patriarcal michivous ape

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-11-30/science/44595591_1_humans-chimpanzees-trait..

anyhow this realm..is satans realm..
[him and his blogging golemm]..

who gifted us ALL..with/the gift of creation..imagination

allowing..us to..rise up..from where ..we come/from..
look for-wards..where we will all..shortly be

satans minions..[golum]..are in a blinking blogging panic
they..have tried to kill off..us unter/mutants..for a long time
in-time..

as/the veils drop from..your eyes/./THEN..it will be wise to..recall..you are children..of the light..not darkness..evil..cannot ever..overcome evil
with evil[that only does greater vile

ONLY..love can save us all
justice..not vengeance
peace/not..war

remove the guilt..and what remains..
may..yet bare good fruits..[for ALL..of us]

anyhow..here is the science
in the beginning was..a golum/hybrid/created..by..TALL/fallen-angels
his name is adam..adam..was genomicly..signified..as [X]..from the piglet..and a y..of a chimp]

anyhow..by removing the..dna..from..adam
and throwing away..the useless y..then doubling up on/the X
was..the [Xy]..off adam..TRANS MUTATED..into..the XX..of eve

now adam..was..still..[XY]..adam
and eve..now was..[XX]..eve

recall..they begat cain..who went rogue..
and was outcast..into/the great southlands[oz]..
though..he as first born..he/yet..inherited..his fathers curse
[his blog-land could be tilled..endlessly.but would refuse...to yield.]
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 14 December 2013 7:16:13 PM
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We should take this in the spirit it is intended,
which is as a piece of satire. I chose to take this
with a laugh. We love Peppa Pig and watch it regularly
because my grandchildren love it. They also love
Bananas in Pyjamas, and The Wiggles. I wonder what
Mr Akerman would make of those?

Interesting though, a new Liberal government and
attacks on the ABC re-surface. BTW - talking about
"bias," Mr Akerman appears regularly on the ABC's
"Insiders." So much for that theory.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 14 December 2013 7:25:18 PM
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It is as a Red Herring to divert attention away from long-standing and persistent allegations about ABC trendy green/left bias. It serves a clique it is said. Many agree that the ABC has changed and not for the better.

<The Australian political leader who expressed most fury at the lack of balance on the public broadcaster was not John Howard. It was Labor's Bob Hawke, who railed against the ABC's reporting of the first Gulf War to drive Saddam Hussein's forces out of Kuwait. Hawke's devastating critique of the ABC in 1991 is documented in Ken Inglis's Whose ABC?. Paul Keating shared Hawke's view at the time that the public broadcaster criticised Labor from the Left. Just as Howard came to the view that the ABC criticised the Coalition from the Left. The Greens don't complain about the ABC. And Palmer seldom fails to declare that ABC presenter Tony Jones is the finest journalist in living memory.
..
What are the ABC's processes for selecting candidates for key positions? How did it occur that, in recent years, the public broadcaster has appointed a bevy of left-of-centre identities. Including Russell Skelton (fact-checking unit), Waleed Aly and Julian Morrow (Radio National Drive), Jonathan Green (Radio National Sunday Extra), Linda Mottram (702), Chip Rolley (The Drum online) and Paul Barry (Media Watch). Were any other candidates seriously considered for such positions and who comprised the selection committee in each case?

Who allowed the ABC, as Spigelman has acknowledged, to focus on such inner-city fashions as gay marriage rather than on such community concerns as electricity prices? How did this occur on Scott's watch?

The ABC chairman told the National Press Club that much of the critique of the "allegedly systematic lack of impartiality" at the ABC turns on just 1 per cent of its programs. This suggests that small cliques are acting in their own interests rather than those of their colleagues and taxpayers. This is a job for management - not external auditors>

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/mark-scott-must-step-up-and-rid-abc-of-its-green-hue/story-fnkqo7i5-1226782717544#
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 15 December 2013 5:25:52 AM
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tell/,me..steve
[if you calm]...ie right/minded thinking

what do the other characters symbolize?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppa_Pig

also..tosave me looking it all..up
what does this mean[in..clear s[peak?]
<<Do we ever see pigs wearing tsitsit and yarmulke's putting on tephillin? We do not.>>

is that anything to do with..her red dress
http://www.google.com.au/images?q=peppa+pig+costume&oe=utf-8&

[ie red shoes..means royalty
but..if pigs wear shoes..hers appear black]..
or else its just dirt..or thrown..mud..[pigs love throwing muc

its intresting IF..the issue..is so important..
why..wasnt mentioned...at the first post
[not..as a second/thought..after
grayham approved it]

the sideswipe at the abc..was that bonus..
or to add some other anger..or just flesh/out a nuthin topic

<<..Now what does that tell us about bias at the ABC?>>

but thats got its own..thread..

are you still angry..but wiser?
or more angry..about..nuthings..or is it just a pig hating bestial/fixation..its interesting..on..a boring day..[before the metal storm..to reflect

do we attract..the very..things
upon which..our golem/masters fears..fixate

http://www.infowars.com/syrias-war-the-next-phase/

http://www.infowars.com/u-s-moves-to-support-al-qaeda-lite-in-syria/

http://www.infowars.com/stefan-molyneux-discusses-our-current-place-in-human-history/

http://uruknet.com/?p=m103316&hd=&size=1&l=e

http://xrepublic.tv/node/6567

http://static.infowars.com/bindnfocom/2013/12/scan.jpg

israel..opens flood gates
to..flood gaza

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=656950

http://news.antiwar.com/2013/12/13/us-open-to-backing-syrias-islamist-rebels/

http://rt.com/news/us-suspends-aid-syria-060/
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/fsa-commander-forced-to-flee-attacked.html

http://www.redressonline.com/2013/12/the-islamists-hijacking-of-arab-hope/
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/war-on-syria-begins-with-mass.html
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/12/13/britain-edges-towards-boycotting-israel/
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ssriviolence.php
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 15 December 2013 10:41:59 AM
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Foxy,

What one Earth is there in my posts that make you suspect it could be intended as satire?

Can't you tell when I'm being serious?

Anyway a merry Christmas, season's greetings, happy holidays, happy summer solstice, happy Gregorian new year, etc, to all.

And lighten up folks!
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 15 December 2013 10:49:43 AM
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Dear Steven,

What made me think you were being satirical?

Perhaps it was your tongue lodged firmly in
your cheek that gave you away or maybe it was
your expose on the low-down of the Peppa Pig family.
Australian politics needs more comical, critical,
satirical views like yours. Delightfully witty and
designed to be offensive to all parties.
Loved it!

And a Merry Mistress And a Happy All Year to You!
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 December 2013 11:00:49 AM
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The 'audit' is I believe a 'quantitative' one. It is pointless totting up the opposing numbers of politicians during the recent election, or the number of minutes allocated to 'sides'.

Gerard Henderson has reported that the 'audit' (his inverted commas, and appropriate) will be conducted by "Andrea Wills - a British journalist who has spent much of her career at the BBC, along with one year at the ABC". Doubtless she will do what is in her brief to the best of her ability. However as Henderson implies, that brief is not aimed at where any problems might be.

Quite apart from that, it is an excess to have two publicly-funded national broadcasters, ABC and SBS and one should take over the other. In any event the recycled BBC programs are available online, as are scores of wildlife programs, music, you name it.

Where government maintains it cannot afford aged care and to fund their aged care the elderly will have to sell their modest homes of a lifetime where they raised their families, and ambulances are ramped outside hospital doors, two national broadcasters are a luxury taxpayers obviously cannot afford.

Those are just some of the inconvenient facts that the 'Peppa Pig' Red Herring seeks to divert attention away from.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 15 December 2013 12:20:10 PM
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Dear Steven,

The following link may be of interest to you:

http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/in-pursuit-of-the-public-broadcaster-writers-on-right-get-very-animated-20131214-2ze98.html?skin=text-only

"It's been a steady bombardment at the ABC, but a scribe's attack on
a cartoon pig is beyond the pink."

The Peppa Pig show, between January and November of this year
was watched 25 million times. Now that's some record!
Enjoy the read.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 15 December 2013 7:03:23 PM
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Foxy,

The lightweight Red Herring pig story you linked to was written by Annabel Crabb.

According to information released by the ABC (not leaked as originally reported by the ABC), Annabel Crabb is employed by the same public broadcaster, the ABC, as its 'online political editor' on $217,426 pa.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/leaked-document-shows-abc-stars-salaries/story-e6frfmd9-1226764149242
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 15 December 2013 7:25:39 PM
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posted..at wrong thread
the ppc
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15820&page=0

some people..take things as signs
like recall the ice-man[grand inquisitor].?
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl11.htm
then this..is but a few signs

[thus be careful..for what you pray for
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#178185

'Iceland model: How to deal with bankers
should be standard for whole world'
http://xrepublic.tv/node/6566

Iceland Jails Former Bank Bosses
http://sorendreier.com/iceland-jails-former-bank-bosses/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/snowburst-5-to-6-feet-of-snow-in-upstate-new-york/

they say..a picture=1001..words

In Turkey, goats (still alive) coated with ICE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OW9jlnCjM8&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OW9jlnCjM8&feature=player_embedded

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/gorecicle.jpg
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/snow1.jpg

It's all over Israel and Palestine.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/apartheidwallinsnow.jpg
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/images-of-the-day-im-dreaming-of-a-white-apartheid/
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/in-photos-braving-the-cold-and-snow-to-protest-blood-diamonds-and-occupation/

http://www.visibleorigami.com/2013/12/love-and-fear-and-heart-of-populace.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/andrew-p-napolitano/a-conspiracy-so-vast%E2%80%A8/

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/bankers-arrested-civil-war-averted.html

http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/the-bill-clinton-murders-bill-clinton-exposed/

http://xrepublic.tv/node/6578
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/football-game-or-tear-gas-and-bullets-palestinians-put-racist-ad-to-test/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/volckers-market-making-mayhem-and-the-feds-money-for-nothing/

http://govtslaves.info/blogger-jailed-refusing-erase-stories-wrote-exposing-powerful-political-family/

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/12/14/sandy-hook-one-year-later-there-are-more-questions-than-answers/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2524003/The-great-Christmas-rip-Shoppers-end-paying-50-toys-retailers-increase-prices.html

diy
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node
you no longer can trust your master'$
but hey..you guys are..expert..at getting the mess-age

out there
j.i.t..cheers
Posted by one under god, Monday, 16 December 2013 6:05:38 AM
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<<Annabel Crabb is employed...on $217,426 pa>>

WOW!

I wouldn't have come close to that in a million years of guessing. Don't get me wrong Annabel is a perfectly nice person. But there a lot of perfectly nice people out their getting paid a lot less than that --next time the ABC does an exposé on corporate salary excesses I will be a little less sympathetic.
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 16 December 2013 6:11:21 AM
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peppa pig; great show
Posted by Chris Lewis, Monday, 16 December 2013 6:28:45 AM
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ABC Pays

Doyen of the Left, Philip Adams, was not amused,

<In an email to online newsletter Crikey, ABC Radio National presenter Phillip Adams said he was "not happy" about how little he was paid compared to other ABC staffers.

"Seems I'm heavily discounted. Half price. Will be discussing it with 'upstairs'," Adams fumed.>

http://preview.tinyurl.com/adams-upset-at-pays
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 16 December 2013 6:44:12 AM
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Who employs Piers Akerman and how much does he
get paid and what's his political background
and who are his cronies? And what sort of barrow
is he pushing and for whom?

The editorial in The Saturday Age, Dec. 14, 2013,
is spot under the heading, "Serving the people,
not the powerful." It's in response to the recent
bombardments by certain entities against the ABC.

"At The Age, we believe the public is best served
by independent, fearless and truthful media, which
serve no political masters, which are prepared to
reveal what our governments are doing, and which
are free to offer opinions about that government.
To whom do we owe an obligation?
To the people of this country, not the government
of the day."

That cannot be said about Mr Akerman's reporting over
the past fifteen years. His record is well known.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 December 2013 8:41:38 AM
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cont'd ...

And speaking of records:

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3144727.htm

Behold Mr Akerman's.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 December 2013 9:16:25 AM
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<<we believe the public is best served
by independent, fearless and truthful media, which
serve no political masters>>

Yes, maybe. But the ABC is NONE of those things

Here we see the FEARLESS ABC's coverage of the Danish cartoons --it didn't publish/broadcast.
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/BaldingResp.pdf
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 16 December 2013 10:06:23 AM
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Dear SPQR,

Actually the ABC is all of those things.
It behaved appropriately, afterall it did
report extensively on the issue. Only two
newspapers in Australia published the cartoons
and the ABC found it unnecessary as did The
Sydney Morning Herald, Channel 7 and others.
However for you to better understand th issue
perhaps this might help when Denmark did it
originally:

http://www.nordicom.gu.se/common/publ_pdf/247_bonde.pdf
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 December 2013 11:48:51 AM
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Hi Foxy,

If I had no other grounds for thinking so, the mere fact that you give the ABC a glowing endorsement would provide me with strong reason to doubt its integrity. Knowing, as I do, that you had given similar endorsements to New Matilda and ("independent") Wendy Bacon in the recent past.

And, the fact that you follow it up with a link that seeks to shaft home the blame for the very bad behavior which followed the publishing of the cartoons to the artists and publishers, and Danish society --which let us not forget big heartedly gave sanctuary to many of the rioters -- only underlines how one-eyed you are.
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 16 December 2013 12:35:35 PM
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Dear SPQR,

Me - one-eyed? Nope, the last time I looked
there were still two there.

I do like to
examine issues from various points of view,
unlike yourself, hence the link I gave which
I thought would show you the conditions that
existed in Denmark at the time to give you
possibly, a better understanding. But I should
have realised that your "objectivity" prevents
you from seeing
anything from another standpoint it clashes with
your obvious sense of fairness, tolerance, and
self-righteousness.

Just teasing.

Isn't this fun?
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 December 2013 1:04:34 PM
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Hi Foxy,

One slightly off the subject question: does your library OIC know you spend soooo much time on the Internet on non-work related issues--and how much is it $worth$ for us not to tell?
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 16 December 2013 1:11:10 PM
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Dear SPQR,

I'll let you in on a secret.

Due to serious health problems
I was recently forced to resign.
So I'm going to be spending more time
in cyberspace - there - aren't you glad
you asked? (I've got two operations coming
up in February and March).
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 December 2013 1:36:39 PM
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hi..s.a.p.[qr]

in.a few more hours

i will be able to reply..your selective use..of a quote
IGNORING..the info that follows[as peppa is aboutkids..ithought i..would give you..the heads-up

i will repeat..the quote..IN CONTEXT

<<..BUT no-one talks about that either

the godless have no conscience>>

you two..jumped right into that one
little seeing..you..by ignoring..what follows..LOL
CONFIRMED..exactly..how far,..,just two..[admitted/god/less]..
how...much..just..two..of ..you will..go.

oklets get tothe bit..that confirmmed..condems you both

THE REST..of the quote continues
<<besides..blackmailing our leaders..[with kids]>>
thats how they get party..loyalty
much..of govt law/finance..is about kids
they blackmail..judges..[anyone]/but

<<..anyhow..lets judge them..later.

<<.lets see..
what laws..do settlers..
in..dark/places..[in..others lands/with duel passports
diplomatic immunity..etc..LIVINGunder the talmud..law..in deserts..[unseen]

[what HOLY text..do they..live under?
talmudic [sic*].law?

http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm
some..quotations;..from the Soncino Edition
of/the Talmud,(Book]

SANHEDRIN,..55b-55a:..
"What is meant by this?...

Rab said:..Pederasty with a child//below nine years of age..is not deemed/..as pederasty..with a child above that.

(footnotes)"..The reference is to..
the passive..'subject'/..[I SAY..*victim}..*..of sodomy

SOD..you bloke..its oktoo ignore
sodomy..upon..little watchers..of a poor piglet..*UNDER NINE

YOU..LOT ARE GODLESS..defending the indefensible
by Detraction..just like you S.A.P[qr]....are doing here/now..[yet another kid topic..[sic*]

<<now lets..go younger

YEBAMOTH,60b..*...Rabbi.Ramanos who conducted an/inquiry..and..'found'..in it..the daughter of a..'proselyte'..
who was.,,*under..the age of three years..[and one day]...,

and Rabbi declared her/eligible*..to live/with a priest."

(footnotes)"..A proselyte..under the age of three years
and one day may...be..*married by a priest...

*And was married..to a priest.

(i.e.,permitted to continue/to live with her'husband'."]

[DOYUNOT GET>>IT..satan..is putting the spin..DESTRACTIVE/spin..in
your every post..[but aas the koransays..those god wishes to./..deply..he first makes insane[onlyit wernt ggod..iyts satan...AND HIS useful/idiots

<<not even/under..so called/gods mozaic..law..
or even..like in./.the bible

(Book)

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp%3Fdiscussion%3D3071%26page%3D0&sa=U&ei=Mk6eUp36Ks2ZlQWzn4D4DA&ved=0CBgQFjAJ

<<>>Child sacrifice..was practiced in ancient times..as offering to the Ammonite god Molech..a worship of natural fertility..*which was forbidden*by the laws of Israel. See Leviticus 18:21; 20:1 - 5; 1Kings 11:7; 2 Kings 1717; 21:6; 27:10; Jeremiah 32:35; Ezekiel 16:21.

[is/this..what the settlers,,[under..THE ATHEIST[secular]..star..are doing..in the deserts..of/the..lampstand..[the/fox/in..the hen-house?]

see you soon
SAP..[qr]

how dare..youtwo make it so easy
but mate..timming..is everything
see you in a few hours

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15820&page=0

you..have that..long..to.;.repent..
ignoring the..godless..HURTING..gods kiddies
tell..your master

tnt*
Posted by one under god, Monday, 16 December 2013 1:37:33 PM
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Foxy,

Sorry to hear that. Hope all goes well for you.

Cheers!
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 16 December 2013 2:14:05 PM
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Steven the brave:)...lets just go back to the dark age, and Iam sure in your past life..as henry the 8th..you felt more comfortable:)

People!....Iam sure there's better things to link, in stead of just two brain cells:)

Anyway...

Planet3
Posted by PLANET3, Saturday, 21 December 2013 7:39:13 PM
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