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Posted by rojo, Monday, 16 April 2007 10:46:31 PM
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Here Is Some Great Work Done by Animals Australia. Men and Women Of Australia I call Upon You To read It.
http://www.liveexport-indefensible.com/news/020307.htm Much more than the economy at stake Originally Printed in The Age (Melbourne) and Sydney Morning Herald 2nd March 2007 By Mirko Bagaric and Lyn White Read this article at the Age online IT IS possible to make a strong economic argument as to why Australia should not export live animals for slaughter to the Middle East. Animal welfare groups are now getting far more commercially savvy and adept at taking on industry groups in their own terminology and framing their submissions in terms of Australian jobs and market imperatives. But this time their analysis is largely wasted. Some forms of barbarity are so depraved that they are beyond economic salvation. It demeans the human condition to even suggest that certain forms of cruelty can be condoned. Such is the case with live animal exports from Australia. For years Australia's live export industry was happy to provide cattle to Cairo's main abattoir despite knowing that cattle routinely had their leg tendons slashed and eyes stabbed to disable them prior to slaughter. The fear and pain inflicted on animals in this process exceeds the human capacity to describe it. Animals hurt in the same way as humans. There are not different types of suffering, only different degrees and intensities. The physiological process by which pain is generated and felt is the same in humans and animals. The intensity with which animals feel pain or distress is no less than in humans. Anyone who has seen the cowering of a dog in response to a raised angry hand can be left in no doubt of that. The fact that an entity can experience suffering terminates all questions regarding its moral standing. The only commonality shared by humans, who command our concern and respect, is that they can hurt. The capacity to sense pain gives humans, no matter how marginalised, pitiably deranged or behaviourally maladaptive, moral status. Animals command our moral standing for exactly the same reason. Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 16 April 2007 10:56:06 PM
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Animals Australia Article contiuned
The inability of animals to use words to communicate to us about their level of suffering is no excuse for ignoring their terrified screams. To the contrary, this places a higher burden on supposedly morally enlightened communities to hear their screams and redress them. This is what the Australian Government did when the revelations of the tendon slashing and eye stabbing in Egypt were aired on national television in February last year. The Government suspended live animal exports. However, this was lifted following the signing of a memorandum of understanding between Agriculture Minister Peter McGauran and his Egyptian counterpart. The MOU contains basic requirements for the treatment of animals, in accordance with World Organisation for Animal Health standards. At the time, Animals Australia, which first exposed the mistreatment, informed McGauran that due to the amount of on-selling of Australian animals, and Egypt's lack of animal protection laws, the Egyptian Government had neither the capacity nor desire to enforce the standards. The MOU was simply a token, formal method for circumventing our most basic of moral responsibilities. Despite this, the boatloads of animal misery and human barbarity recommenced on October 11, when a shipment of Australian sheep left Portland for Egypt. Animal Australia investigators in Cairo in late December predictably observed egregious breaches of the MOU. Australian sheep were sold by merchants from seven different locations in Cairo. Individuals were buying sheep to take home to sacrifice on the morning of a festival. In the process, sheep were thrown from trucks, dragged on their stomachs, tied up and transported on car roof racks and jammed into car boots for journeys of up to two hours. Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 16 April 2007 11:03:04 PM
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To The Honourable the President and Members of the Senate in Parliament assembled:
The Petition of the undersigned protests in the strongest possible terms against the live-export of Australian animals. During transportation the animals are subjected to inhumane conditions resulting in unacceptably high death rates and suffering. Upon arrival, they suffer extreme cruelty and barbarism prior to and during slaughter - practices that are illegal in Australia. Your petitioners call upon the members of the Senate to immediately, and without delay, ban the live export of Australian livestock. (NOTE: Signatures on this petition appear the day after signing to prevent defacing of the document by spammers. This is the second round of the petition. Signatures from the first round were archived December 15, 2003, and can be viewed here.) Signatures from this round are loading, below. Date Name Country Comments 2007-04-08 Sophie MacGillivray Australia 2007-04-08 julia deasley western australia Surely it must be possible to set up slaughter houses in Australia, where the slaughter of animals can be controlled by our laws, but undertaken by the religious groups in question. That way all interests are served. 2007-04-03 Catherine Pauly France 2007-04-03 Eddie Knipe England Putting it bluntly - pretty sad state of affairs. 2007-04-01 Sharleen Williams Australia It is disgusting 2007-04-01 Deirdre Williams Australia IT IS A DISGRACE 2007-04-01 Barb Daviduk canada help us help those that do not speak whether animal or child 2007-04-01 Lisa Stapleton australia 2007-03-31 wong thao usa the animals did nothing wrong to deserve punishment they should stop this at once 2007-03-31 Tommy LY Australia 2007-03-30 Dianne Laing United States This trade is heartless and cruel; please end this inhumane treatment towards animals. 2007-03-29 melony arslan united kingdom 2007-03-29 Sue Drake-Brockman Australia 2007-03-27 Britney Hungar Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 9:26:46 PM
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2007-03-27 Jen Australia Please, please, please end this practice. I used to holiday in the town where the animals are exported from - but now I find it hard to visit now I know the fate of the ships often seen in the harbour. It makes me feel sick. I love Australia and our society, but this issue is just a black mark on our country.
2007-03-23 Justin Stevens US I am studying environmental science and intensive farming is hurting the world 2007-03-22 hollie kunica england CRUEL 2007-03-21 karly weisbord australia This makes me sick going to throw up this is so inhumane.They actually skin the animals and open them up wen they r still alive they break there necks and fracture there skulls and (curse) society and whoever condoned this as acceptable behaviour~ 2007-03-21 Lindsay Rich United States ITS WRONG! 2007-03-21 Debbie Barnes Australia 2007-03-19 Ghazala Anwar New Zealand Please ban the inhumane practice of live (and slaughtered) animal export. We as a human race need to leave behind the practice of animal exploitation and opression in all its forms. How we treat animals is an indication of how we are willing to treat other human. 2007-03-18 katrina hunt australia 2007-03-15 Ashleigh Grigsby USA 2007-03-14 Kim Donnelly Australia 2007-03-12 Boni Japan 2007-03-07 Sanja Djorem Slovenija Be human, be moral,Stop! 2007-03-06 Mell Cook Australia Think about how YOU would feel if these terrible things were being done to YOU 2007-03-06 Tibor Breznan Canada 2007-03-02 Robert Brown United States 2007-03-01 George Jackson U.K This Practise is cruel 2007-02-24 Sandy Slatter-Raguse Australia This is such a cruel thing to be happening and needs to be stopped now. 2007-02-23 flora chapron france 2007-02-23 Tracey Moore tasmania im doing a project on the tasmanian feedlot. AND I WANT TO ALL TO STOP RIGHT NOW. its just not on. its worng. I hate the thought of it. its just. bad 2007-02-22 Sam Kahlert Australia 2007-02-22 Christy Llewellyn Australia Live export must stop NOW. 2007-02-22 Rebecca U.S. thats really wrong dont they have any better things to do then kill animals cold hartless bas*ard Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 9:48:01 PM
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Elders Live Animal Exporters.
The following messages are for you 2007-02-21 Romi Rivera United States Subjecting any animal to forms of abuse, which this most definitely would be considered a form of abuse, is cruel and inhumane. If we as humans are able to lend a hand against such unjust ways towards creatures, which we share this world with, even if it is as simple as signing a petition, let us come together and create the world in which we live! Spread the word, spread awareness! ~ 2007-02-21 Sunshine USA I am against anything that is against animals.Animals are a big part of me.I dont like when they are disrespected. 2007-02-20 Stuart Ulrich Australia For australia for the economy not for self interest 2007-02-20 Andrea Hudson Australia (enter comments here)I am utterly appauled and disgusted that the Australian Government still allows this horrific cruelty to be inflicted upon any animal. Peter Dutton should be ashamed of himself. We went to him pleading, to have live animal export banned - he just laughed and said that he has seen cruelty being a policeman and that nothing will be done about banning it. 2007-02-19 Ann de Jersey Australia Allowing these terrible acts of cruelty to animals is as the same as allowing Hitler to run extermination camps. 2007-02-19 will goodfellow australia 2007-02-15 brittany wallace united states this world is so crule to animals and we ned to put a sop to it 2007-02-15 natalie canada pleeeeeeeeeeease stop 2007-02-15 Nadine Robbert Lang Lang, VIC, Aus 2007-02-09 jessica eldridge austraila 2007-02-08 jodie australia i think that live exports are completly inhumane and unesersary, all this could b changed. animals are like us they have feelings and a heart and they alsofeel stravation and de-highration please take this into consideration these animals do not deserve to b treated like this 2007-02-08 pauline mendoza australia (Please make me feel proud to be Australian, not ashamed) 2007-02-07 Andrea Van Rullen Australia 2007-02-07 Crystal Foster Wichita, KS, USA STOP 2007-02-05 Ted Borden USA This is an important matter that needs to be addressed by the Australian Government Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 5:59:52 AM
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"Animals should be transported as close as possibly from its origan to abattoirs"
Surely these animals appreciate the opportunity to travel far and wide. A free overseas cruise with on-board vetenary services, all meals supplied with the sea air to boot. Interaction with foreign culture, possibly a ride on a motorbike through a city taking in the sights. And if they didn't like the trip, well they don't have to worry about repeating the journey as it is one-way.
Or they can get in a truck to the local Halal abbatoir(coming soon to a town near you) and have their throat slit there . Not much of a life experience , but same outcome.