I've just heard this for the first time today. I believe this alone could totally invalidate the Fair Work Australia report on Craig Thomson.

It's been revealed to the general public today (although not hidden from those in the know) that the deputy president of Fair Work Australia is Michael Lawler. Mr Lawler is the partner of the Health Services Union national secretary Kathy Jackson. Ms Jackson has been a major opponent and accuser against Craig Thomson.

If that itself is not enough, Ms Jackson today has now admitted that she had obviously talked with Mr Lawler about the Thomson issue.

Mr Lawler, himself personally, is not responsible for the FWA report on Craig Thomson ...... *BUT* he is the deputy president of FWA.

Why didn't the authorities have Mr Lawler stood down, during the making of the report, considering his relationship with Ms Jackson? It all brings into serious question the perception of independence and perception of integrity of the FWA Thomson report.

I believe this is scandalous, and serious questions need to be asked. I believe the report is now discredited. It's clear now, that the only place the truth will be proven regarding the allegations against Craig Thomson, is in a court of law. The court of law is what our freedoms are based on, and that is the way it should always be.

FP, this is not new, I read about it ages ago.
As most of the people in FWA are ex union people it would not be
surprising that everyone knows just about everyone.

All that you could expect is that the man involved would rule himself
out of any decision making. However I agree, it is not a good look and
reflects on the government for stacking FWA.

I agree. I also agree with Thompson's statements regarding the presumption of innocence and the abject failure of the Opposition to understand and honour that precept. I listened to his explanation and it has the ring of truth. So much time is taken up in parliament by this matter which should only be hammered out in the courts, that the place has lost almost all its credibility.

ybgirp, it is not as simple as saying he is presumed innocent.
It appears that only applies in a court trying a criminal charge.

It certainly does not apply in Parliament which has privilege anyway.
Someone said today that hacking cannot change the number that appears
on the account system even if another number is used to make the call.
So the charge should show on that person's account not Thompson's.

The telephone system should record the serial number of the phone not just the sim card number.

Who knows the truth with this sorry tale of poor behaviour?

But most watchers of this do recognise that 4 years to produce a report is a total wheeze, con, put up job, dodge and dodgy practice, and whatever other phrase anyone can think of to express total disbelief.

Still, given the SMH expose of the last ALP NSW government 'best practice' this is hardly a surprise, since the same political machinery is at the heart of it all.

Getting caught in Abbott and Pyne's rather shrill calls for lynch mobs to rule does none of us any good.

Defending the ALPs tardy and tawdry behaviour in pre-selections and post election behaviours is also a dangerous practice.

Let's leave it to the courts to decide Thompson's role, and here it seems Tony Windsor is the wisest head in the parliament, but we most certainly need a WW2 searchlight beam shone right into the depths of the Fairwork Retirement Home to winkle out all the 'restrictive work practices' they obviously engage in.

To all who are critical of the FWA report about the activities of MP Craig Thomson and the time it took.

I have a question. Who referred the allegations to FWA to investigate? Fraud allegations are usually directed to the police.

Another question. As FWA is the birthchild of the Labor party, do I add it to the list of stuff ups or Labor Lemons?

I put these links up on SM's thread, but they are probably more appropriate here.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/how-the-hsu-tangled-jackson-lawler-and-thomson-with-abbott/

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/the-jackson-and-lawler-hsu-tangle-part-two/

It seems the mysterious Mr Lawler has suddenly gone on "long leave" and is out of contact.

It's a shame because I'd like to know more about what his role has been in this affair.

Lawler, who has a history of defending employers’ interest in legal matters, was appointed to the AIRC (now Fair Work Australia) by then Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Tony Abbott – who remains a personal friend.

He made threats and allegations of corruption (later disproven) against HSU East Divisional Secretary Carol Glen based on “personal emails” but refused to reveal how he managed to gain access to them.

How is he able to allegedly hack the emails of a Union official and then make a criminal complaint regarding this Union even while being the Vice President of the organisation actually in charge of investigating the same Union?

As for his partner, Kathy Jackson has been saying that Thomson’s conspiracy theories regarding fiddling credit cards, setting up people with prostitutes, and elaborate private expenses on a union credit card are all nonsense — absolutely unheard of ridiculous stories.

However, from the The Weekend Australian – April 2009:

“The statement of a Bendigo Gold Visa card allegedly issued to Jackson shows expenditure on services that fall far outside his normal duties. It includes a string of prostitutes, designer clothes, dental work, gourmet food and drinks at a favourite Melbourne hotel. Jackson challenges the authenticity of this credit card account and dismisses allegations he has misused any funds as part of a “dirty tricks campaign” mounted by opponents within his union…”

This was about Jeff Jackson - Kathy's estranged husband.

Strangely familiar.

Then there is Kathy's email that inluded samples of other emails as a pdf attachemnet. The attachment properties showed that the software was licenced to Fair Work Australia. Hmm.

This has the stench of typical LNP dirty tricks about it and there will be more to come before this sotory is finished.

Wobbles, LNP, ALP, HSU, NSW Right all sound amd smell the same these days, fetid socks, dogs vomit and dinosaur turds.

I am not surprised thread author is not aware this is very old news.
And not that the linch mob is still running around rope in hand.
After court settles it we may just see, but ignore, conservatives are muck raking

Poirot, and FP,

As I posted on the other thread:

The evidence against Thomson is clear and damaging, and only a handful of delusional labor die hards swallow the twaddle that Thomson is dishing up with regards the 100 odd charges against him in the FWA report. The parliament has the procedures to rid itself of rogues and crooks such as Thomson and can do so as would any public or private organisation.

Finally, as I recall, the FWA is a labor created organisation stocked mostly with ex union officials, and the threadbare and convoluted conspiracy theory trying to link Jackson and Abbott is laughable. I have seen better "proofs" that 911 was a CIA plot. Poirot, I would have thought you more circumspect that to attach your credibility to such tripe.

All that smear article was trying to do was to claim that because Jackson's partner (appointed by Labor to FWA) had some tenuous acquaintance with Abbott, that Jackson as a senior member of the HSU was secretly trying to destroy the unions and Labor. Puleez!

The alternative story is that Jackson could no longer bear the corruption and cover ups within the union and Labor movement. She has clearly little to gain from this stance and has faced a sustained attack from all in the unions for opening the can of worms, and almost certainly will lose her job for it. Unless of course you believe that she made it all up and is on the coalition's payroll?

FP given that Mr Lawler is a Labor appointee, and as you admit "Mr Lawler, himself personally, is not responsible for the FWA report" are you trying to claim that Jackson and Lawler are secretly working for the coalition to destroy labor and the unions?

As Runner said "Have you seen Elvis recently?"

Where there's smoke there's fire.
Abbott is smoldering, and Lawler has gone bush.
The set-up takes shape.
Who has anything to gain the most from the ashes.
SM is in desperate defense, and sees no need for more discussion.

Oh goody, I have some posts left on this thread (as I have to wait five hours on the other one)

SM,

I'm not the one who spends hours and hours on this forum pushing the Liberal Party's agenda.

You're the one with fixated partiality.

The fact that runner is on your side is the thing that's "telling".

Belly,
Muck raking also is not new. If one looks back a bit one can find many parliamentarians that have been forced to resign for inappropriote conduct or misleading parliament. From both major parties. Not to mention muck raking on both sides.

e.g. The Loans affair, the sports rorts and travel rorts, just to mention a few. None of these went to court.

So it is hypocritical to claim we should let the courts decide, Parliament does not need a court to oust or force a member to resign.
Interesting to see who exercises 'right of reply' and what they say.

Seems to me Thomson has got himself in the poo as is blaming everyone except himself. Funny that few Labor members were in the House to hear their former colleague. They want to distance themselves.

Three years is far too long for an investigation, I had better put FWA as another Labor Lemon.

My understanding is that if another mobile phone is used to spoof a
target phone, the charges go to the account of the phone used to make
the phone call not to the target phones account.

If so, then the calls to the brothels must have been made by Thompson's phone.

Sim cards are programmable on blanks or other sim cards, sim cards can be used in another phone.
If someone steals your phone and puts another sim card in it it is lost for good.

Poirot,

I freely admit that I am biased towards the Liberals as you are to Labor, however, I would never post anything as fantastical as you have just done. While I might put my view point, I at least try to ensure I post facts not cobbled up innuendo. That runner can call you out should make you ashamed.

There is no FWA scandal, and none of the papers from either side will touch this drivel.

579, No, what I have been told is that you can reprogram a sim card
but there is more to it than that. It maybe that there is a serial
number check or an inaccessible area in the sim card.

I know someone who will know for certain, Ill ask him when I see him.

AH GEE! Our informed commentator Shadow Minister has got it wrong!
Strike me Lucky! Poirot is a Green supporter bloke.
Did you watch Pyne? he lied twice while moving his privileges thing!
Yes he did, or are we to say made a mistake?
Abbott is unfit to be in the Parliament with out broom in hand.

Some facts are vitally important regarding the FWA scandal:

(1) Lawler was appointed by Tony Abbott himself, before FWA adopted the FWA name

(2) Lawler is a friend of Tony Abbott

(3) Lawler is the partner of Craig Thomson's greatest critic Kathy Jackson of the HSU

(4) Lawler is the deputy president of FWA

(5) Lawler has been "personally informed" of details by Kathy Jackson

(6) Lawler has remained in his position while the FWA report was collated.


This FWA scandal absolutely REEKS of a Liberal party setup. The full facts regarding this will eventually surface, but these things often take years.

Regarding Thomson, if the situation was reversed (Libs in minority government and Christopher Pine accused of seeing hookers and mishandling money for personal gain), we ALL know the Libs would be defending Pine to the hilt, doing all they can to keep Pine in parliament, calling for Pine to have his day in court, whinging about Labor's parliamentary kangaroo court against Pine, and they will insist Pine is innocent until proven guilty.

Politicians = as shallow and insincere and two faced as it gets.

I do wonder if Abbott is sticking his neck out a bit too far. If Thomson is able to prove that he was in WA on one of the occasions when he was supposedly using a prostitutes services on this side of the country then Abbott and others will be very exposed. I'd expect that there would be records of travel, records of accommodation, records of credit card usage in WA to back up that claim.

Ute-gate and the impact of that on Turnbull credibility comes to mind but perhaps a little worse.

If there was a liberal setup I doubt it's one that Abbott or other senior libs would be aware of, too much chance of ending up in jail if it comes unstuck (and if it is a setup the perps should do jail time) and a little too far back to make a lot of sense as a political target.

Whilst as a sideline observer Thomson's story sounds less than convincing I'd find it easier to credit an inside job from someone else in the union than a long term liberal plot to set up a fairly unremarkable union boss.

"before FWA adopted the FWA name", are you implying that FWA is a remnant of the Coalitions industrial policy with some Gillard window dressing in the form of a name change?

R0bert

Lawler was appointed by Abbott on recommendation to a different statutory body and never worked directly with him. FWA was created in 2009 by Rudd, and all the appointees are by Labor.

Abbott has not been connected in any way with Lawler for years.

Lawler was not directly involved in the investigation, nor has there been any suggestion that he interfered.

This is as tenuous a conspiracy theory as I have ever heard. Yet another labor beat up.

Dear Shadow Minister,

How do you know what Mr Abbott's connection is to
Mr Lawler? Can you say for certain that Mr Abbott
has not been connected to Mr Lawler for years?
Where is your evidence? And how come you know this?
How come you know so much about Mr Abbott?

Let's keep to the facts, and not make up stories.

Fact: As of it's date of conception, ALL of Fair Work Australia's members were members of the Australian Industrial Relations Commission the previous day.

Fact: Tony Abbott personally appointed Michael Lawler.

Fact: Tony Abbott and Michael Lawler are long term, and current, friends through Opus Dei. Their families are friends.

FP,
You claim that this REEKS of a Lib party set up. How come?

These are not allegations. They are the findings of a FWA investigation into the actions of Thomson. There are aboout 150 adverse findings.

FWA is a body set up by the present Labor government. Members are appointed on the direct recomendation of the government.

Now I do not have any time for this present government, but I do not see them being so silly to have any body or committee that it did not have a majority on, or not likely to be biased to the government.

I thought Arjay was the chief conspiracy theorist on OLO.

If you want to scrutinize the members, there is a list available. Just google FWA.

You do realize that by saying FWA has been compromized, you are alluding to a failure of the government. At present you have not shown any evidence of a scandal. Unless you are referring to the time taken to investigate. Now that is scandalous.

But keep going, I am happy to hear any critisism of this government.

Muckraking is just another name for political strategy to some people and they go to all sorts of lengths to win.

On one side we've already seen forged ComCar dockets used to smear a High Court Judge and falsified taxi vouchers used to attack a Minister (who happened to be overseas at the time).

They happily fell for a Treasury Insider who faked emails on their behalf after a smear campaign about a "free ute" began to flounder.
I suppose he assumed it was just the way they did things, and who could blame him under the circumstances.

They won a federal election partly due to a forged letter between a State Premier and the then Opposition leader but somehow never bothered investigated this federal crime of forgery after winning office.

They continued to pursue an ex-PM long after he left office over alleged business dealings, probably out of revenge.

Keating is later said to have given Latham a personal file on Howard but Latham refused to use personal attacks to win political arguments.

It says a lot more about the character of some people than their targets.

If it's going to be a tit-for-tat struggle then maybe Sophie Mirabella (for one) better get her affairs in order and some certain frontbenchers should come clean on their private dealings.

It's always easier to throw mud than it is to wipe if off.

I say they should throw open the gates now and clean out BOTH sides. It would be interesting to see how deep hypocrisy goes, particularly in those who seem to claim the moral high ground.

Lexi, I read the financial review. It might come as a shock, but the appointment of a person to a statutory body does not even imply that the appointee and appointer even knew each other before the event or have contact after. Howard appointed judges that he never spoke to ever again etc. The selection of candidates is prepared by a selection committee and recommended to the minister. While it is the policy of Labor to appoint ex union mates to FWA, this was not the practise previously.

Labor reappointed the members of the AIRC, but were under no obligation to do so, and most of the senior members from the ranks of the unions.

FP, Opus Dei, You do realise that Dan Brown was writing fiction? Now this is getting decidedly fruity.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Kindly answer the questions I asked.
How do you know - and what do you know?

SM, why do you think that Opus Dei is a "fictional" organization? That's strange. Fact = Opus Dei exists ... just like the Catholic Church exists, the Harbour Bridge exists and the Opera House exists.

FP,

OD exists as a small and generally un-influential diocese of the Catholic Church with less impact on world affairs than the boy scouts. Secondly I can find no links with Abbott or Lawler. This is by far the most laughable proposition.

Lexi,

I did tell you. Feel free to read the financial review today, it is all there. It is too long to cut and paste.

Dear Shadow Minister,

No you didn't answer the questions I asked - and
you don't have to cut and paste the entire article -
just the part that answers my questions and where
you get your assumptions about Mr Abbott from.
Are you a relative of his - or does he speak to you
and tell you
things that the rest of us don't know? Do tell.

Oh Lexi, simple. Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt told him what to think.

Which he boosted with snippets from Channel 7 and 10, the 'hard news' channels for thinking people.

Plus, the absolute confirming proof that I heard Ms. Jackson say herself on ABC 7.30 last night (approximately enough)'I don't know of any involvement with(in?) the Liberal Party' when asked of her partner's political connections.

And who would doubt the horses mouth?

Dear TBC,

"Who would doubt the horses mouth?"

I think I might have his mouth thoroughly
checked by an equine dentist. :-)

SM thinks Opus Dei is a "diocese" of the Catholic Church. HA ha ha ha ha ha .... that really made my day.

What's the difference between "Thompson" and "Thomson"?

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/craig-thomson-under-the-rain/

Part three.

Belly,

"Strike me Lucky! Poirot is a Greens supporter bloke."

Well yes and no, belly. I've been a Labor voter most of my life, only gravitating to the Greens more in the last decade - usually in the Senate. And yes, I've become somewhat disillusioned with federal politics in general over the last few years...around the time when their ceased to be a major difference between the two main parties.

However, I'm finding that my antennas are again twitching. I sensing the presence of a huge rat in these latest proceedings, and unless someone can explain all the anomalies, I'm going to keep watching with interest.

Putting up reading SM's puerile "Juliars" all these years must have some payoff eventually. One way to lure me back to the Labor fold is to expose the Lib's as an incompetent scheming outfit. All show and no substance. I hadn't watched parliament for a while, but the other day I did. The only thing that caught my eye on the opposition benches was Julie Bishop tousling her hair and dusting her shoulders to make sure that none of her scalp had sprinkled itself upon them. Keeping up appearances is the name of the game in Liberal circles. let the story continue....

There certainly is a lot of coincidences, all finger pointers have been coagulating.
Tis getting bigger as the days go on.
More behind the facts than just facts from FWA.
Thomson only got one interview a couple of years ago.
Must have been treated as an open and shut case.
With all these facts of the findings, the relevant paper work is on hand lets hope.
The facts of electoral funding have gone nowhere.
Thomson needs paperwork of his whereabouts on the dates in question. If one is proven, the whole investigation will lose credibility.

Poirot,

Are you still interested in the bridge, or Elvis?

FP Opus Dei still seeking world domination?

Thomson has not denied that it is his credit card or his driver's licence in the photo, so what is the point of the article.

Thomson has not provided one witness, one document, or even one shred of evidence to prove his innocence.

All Labor has is innuendo and fantasy.

But Poirot! you can read write and think.
So clearly need no help from me to see the purely rotten nature of Abbott's Circus performers.
Being nice there, flim flam men and women suits.

I've listed this link on another thread but it
probably belongs on this one:

http://newmatilda.com/2012/05/22/thomson-scandal-future-oz-politics

It's a good take on the mess we're all seeing.

Lexi, another of many endless journalistic ponderings that contribute very little to seeing through the mists of deceit but no better or worse than any other either.

It occurs to me that the spotlight needs to shine a little beyond just the man in question and directly onto those others from the HSU (and surrounding supporters)who are so eager to put their case, yet to me at least, sound just as thinky credible as the accused.

As for Abbott and Co, whatever they believe they are doing for 'the low paid workers', as if that was ever in the LNP frontal lobes, they are not doing much to explain what our next government is planning to do.

Unless this is as good as it gets, and he will segue into government doing nothing but continue with his Whelan act.

Dear TBC,

Thanks for raising some valid points.

All the link that I gave was meant to do - was to
make people just take a step back from all the media
hype - and have a bit of a re-think of what's really
happening.

Ah well - I tried.

While it is easy to feel sorry for Thomson, the situation he is in is entirely of his own making. Just as any other thief that has been caught, facing justice is stressful and career limiting. Thomson has chosen the hard path of accepting Labor's protection in the hope that he can avoid punishment.

With the hung parliament he has hung a target on his back. Every investigative journalist can see dollars and a career in digging up the dirt on the issue, and by god they have got far more than if Thomson had not been important. For the coalition this is a gift of 1000 unpaid staffers, and all they have to do is rub Juliar's nose in it every day.

The solution for his stress is to make himself no longer a target and to resign from parliament.

This is not going to stop until he is gone. The damage to Labor will continue even to 2013.

Lexi, I think your efforts were fine but the NM story was not expanding on much that is not there already.

As for feeling sorry for him, only to the extent that he is in danger of danger to himself.

The Star Chamber of SM has convicted him already, as is the wont of lynch mobs, but as far as 'credit cards borrowed' goes, the refrain sounds familiar and might just have been a well worn excuse crafted within that union, tainting more than just him.

Let's face it, the HSU might not even have scored a Cert 1 in bookeeping after three or four times at trying to, so to that extent I'd have no quibble with SM or anyone else pointing out the obvious flaws.

But the temptation to state categorically that he is guilty-as-charged has to be resisted and denied, since he has not been charged with anything to get him to a court (beyond that of public opinion), we are not a court, and it is somewhat defamatory SM.

Actually, unless you have started a thread somewhere SM, I'm surprised you have not mentioned the obvious attempt by Howes to kick off a distracting theme with his Press Club speech yesterday, clearly designed to divert attention from Thompson, which seems not to have worked, like much of Howes efforts.

TBC,

I am not defaming at all, simply repeating what a 3 year audit / investigation into the HSU declared.

The normal due process for fraud of this nature would refer the case to the police and financial crimes department who would use the evidence to prosecute. The court would weigh up the evidence and produce a verdict.

The due process for unions instead was referral to the FWA tribunal who reviewed the evidence, and produced a verdict. The difference it does not have the power to sentence, or Thomson would be in far more serious trouble.

However, there has been due process and the time for assumption of innocence has long passed in anything but the criminal trial to come.

TBC it is my belief you and I do some times think alike, we must however clash as we are also quite different.
I do not blame any one for being very much more than upset with this bloke.
I FEAR lip service from within my union movement,to the fact he and others,in the HSU, are pure filth.
I can target, pick very real holes in SOME charges.
But see very clearly others stick.
The Trade union movement MUST CONFRONT! this is a death sentence, unless it is seen to be fixed.
ACTU must, remove the union, forever, start another one, including ONLY the clean skins from this one.
Cut fees, increase service, to reestablish it in its members minds, service has been poor_ask the members.
My concern is this, LIBERALS/CONSERVATIVES ABBOTT are trying to circumvent our system of law.
History shows they do it well, Mark Vaile one of 4 who left rather than be held accountable.
Heffernan,found Innocent in days,by his party!
We are confronted by a potential government/certain one, that is on form going in to power on bile and lies and has only that to fuel it.
I fear for us all.

Quite so Belly, and to that extent we are at least in part in-concert with SM, because there is no fudging the extent of executive wilfulness so far on display from swathes of HSU people.

There is no HSU in Qld. The same people would be AWU, Missos's and whatever public relations farce of a name the QPSU is now hiding behind.

A carve up along those lines sounds like a good solution, cutting their fees maybe, and getting a far higher level of accountability all round.

There could be absolutely no transfer of staff, at least above an industrial officer level, to any other union even considered though.

It will be interesting to see if Ms. Jackson re emerges under an Abbott government with a cushy sinecure somewhere within the industrial system, or perhaps as an IR consultant on union-bashing contract making work under the wing of the HR Nichols Society.

Can anyone name even one criminal offence, no matter how minor, that Craig Thomson has been charged with?

I'll answer that ......... not one person can.

Do you want me to list all the criminal charges that have been brought against other politicians? You'd need several pages to list them all. Including the indecent assault charge brought against Tony Abbott.

The ONLY reason this c r a p is on page one and not page 20 of the newspapers is solely because it's a hung parliament. No other reason whatsoever. The coalition's mock "morality" is pathetic to witness.

If Thomson is not charged with a criminal offense, and charged soon, will the Liberal drama queens apologise? Of course they won't, as they lack the moral fibre and decency to do that.

Now we have that stupid excuse for a "current affairs" (ha ha ha ha) show, ACA, paying a prostitute in order to get a concocted possible story: They admitted it this evening; they said they haven't yet "paid" the prostitute; that way they get around the truth. If they give her the money next week, then "technically" they have not lied. They've clearly been through this with their lawyers.

The ACA prostitute apparently was paid for with Thomson's credit card years ago. Well DUH! That's what Thomson has been saying all along. Nobody has been able to produce even one prostitute that Thomson himself has actually had sex with ... at any stage in his life.

If Thomson gets through this without being criminally charged, or if he's criminally charged and found not guilty, I hope he sues, sues, and sues some more. Every "opinion" shock jock, online forum owner, pretend current affairs show, tabloid newspaper, and quite a few Coalition politicians will provide Thomson with a nice little earner for the rest of his life. He'll make hundreds of million$ from the media and political attack dogs. Sue baby, sue.

Thomson hasn't been charged yet largely because of the delays of his union mates in the FWA. However, the record 3 year investigation left no doubt for most that Thomson is a crook.

Thomson tried to sue SMH but had to drop the case on the advice of his lawyers, as it is apparently not defamation when you print the truth.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/aide-says-he-fell-victim-to-infighting-20120524-1z7zr.html
Just imagine!
If this link highlighted Labor in fighting.
Labor members walking out of meetings.
After faction heads imposed their mates on local party members.
However the shame is, talking heads presenting their views as news, Abbott's performing clowns, are bound to?
Ignore or defend this link, see truth died some time ago.
Heffernan? his history of idiot acts is longer than the National route one.
But no chance we will hear about it.

Belly, Sen. Hefferlump is a well known homophobe.

So much so, in fact, that one has to wonder if this is just a front to mask some massive homosexual tendencies within, no doubt repressed but glaringly obvious to the man himself, which is expressed through his irrational behaviour towards, say, Kirby, all those years ago and his obvious self-loathing.

Do I recall some sort of 'family issue' with a sibling being homosexual? Or something to do with kiddiefiddling?

We've all seen how Big Hat Katter hates 'poofs' only to find he's closely associated with one.

Could The Hefferlump be the same?

Is he caught in a Hefferlump trap of his own making?